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i like NFL.com, the videos look totally awesome but hopefully it doesn't take forever to load.

Can someone at least set the league up so I can register a team!

i will set it up on sunday (unless i decide to drink) it almost definitly will be nfl.com unless i look at it n it looks liek ****

we can't ****ing curse on this mother ****er. rex ryan is going to be ****ing pissed!

As long as it isn't fox sports I'm beyond down. I think the video thing from NFL is only for week one then u have to pay for it.

I still vote for Yahoo!

Just suck it it and pay $10 for Stat Tracker.

Why pay at all? NFL and ESPN both offer stat tracker free and actually works on a regular basis as opposed to ****ty ****ty fox sports.

Keep 2. If you drop a player you cannot select that player in the first round of the draft the next year. This prevents the person who finishes in last place from dropping peyton manning to keep 2 up and comers then picking Peyton with the first pick.

You can keep a player for a max of 3 years.

Fish, get with the picture, get a photo.

three year max is a pretty standard keeper league rule...

ill do whatever we decide on but honestly i have liked our league the past few years. i mean what if someone drops out of a keeper league how does that work?

i eat sleep and breathe football, i mean i just read a long article on kevin kolb the qb of my division rival because i can't get enough football talk, but i dont think we really need to church it up so much.

our league the past few years has been really fun.

what are normal keeper league rules like? we should just go with what most other leagues do.

you keep 2 players from each year. you can keep a guy for 3 years at which point he goes back into the draft. draft the following year can still be random and you gotta choose your keepers before the draft order is selected. that way everyone will keep their best players cause theres no guarentee you will have a chance to pick someone back up, simple as that...

ignore my above post about not being able to draft someone you dropped in the first round cause with a random order everyone (or at least the ppl selecting before you) has a chance to draft any of your dropped players

yea im starting to lean away from a keeper too... if we were thinking about doing an auction so everyone has a shot at CJ2K, AP, etc. the keeper leauge is kinda the opposite of that since good players will be locked up for 3 years

i mean if u want to play the same way since uve been playing since u were 10 then fine well keep it.  the reason ppl change rules is cuz it makes it more fun, which is y the nfl changes ot rules, which is y madden keeps changings things.  ya this is the safe way but i think if u gave something new a chance u might find u like it better.  i mean lets b serious our fantasy league only last like 14 weeks. we have the draft a few days before week 1, and then playoffs start week 14 where most ppl r out or about to be out.  if we did a keeper, we have all offseason to figure out wat we want to do with our guys, how long u want them, maybe trade them? n u get to hold on to them its almost like there ur guys.

forster, other than erm (who i kicked out n never shoulda been in in the 1st place), weve had the same 9 ppl in our league for 4 years now n i dont see any1 not wanted to play fantasy anymore or losing interest in football anytime soon so i dont see some1 dropping out. and if they did we would just go back to a simple league like we have now.

i no i keep harping on this, but the typical way to do a keeper league is an auction draft n then the next offseason u can keep either 2 or 3 players for double wat u paid. so if u got chris johnson this year for 30 points, u can keep hiom next year but then next years auction u already spent 60 on him so tht might mess up the rest of ur team.  its real good when u get a rookie for like 5 points n he blows up n u get to keep him for 10. smart drafting

and my first time playin fantasy was with you guys so i guess im just not sick of it yet

ur right, i do want a more in depth league i think ive made tht pretty obvious the past few months. ive been following football since i was 8 n i read articles every single day so to be honest i dont want to be in a league where a portion of the ppl dont pick up players n to be honest its a league where a 10 year old can do or win if they get lucky in the draft. and im not talkin simply about having the 1st pick. im talking about printing out espn top 200 n then picking the best player avialbe n thts how u have ur team. 

to b honest if it wasnt for the stories n the fact were all friends i wouldnt want to do this league, my brother is in a competive keeper league where every1 is real involved n i feel like 80% of us no a little something about football to make this work but no1 wants to put any effort into something other than a minor roster update once a week. 

im hopin instead of thinkin im tryin to stir **** up n make things difficult, some1 agrees with me n says ya, maybe we should try something different n have fun with it rather than doing the exact same thing every year where nobody can remember who even won the championship last year

fish I am obsessed with football too and I see your point but even if you know everything about football there is still a lot of luck involved. I took the number 1 seed from you last year in the final week of the season and if I hadn't have done that I would have won the championship. Yes I was that mad that I went back and checked that after I was eliminated.

If you wanted to eliminate luck from fantasy football all together you wouldn't have week to week matchups. You would simply play out the entire season including playoffs and the person whose team put up the most points at the end of the season would win the championship.

i am very opposed to the total points throughout the entire season mattering, except for tie breakers to get into the playoffs

theres luck in everything, im not going to say if we did things differently this year then all luck it out of the equation.  read this section from my man bill simmons and see if u start to see things differently:

Recommendation No. 2: Everyone switches to an auction format
Why? Because nobody in the history of mankind has ever NOT had fun during an auction. Because it spares us from the missionary-position feel of a round-by-round draft; auctions can go in any direction. (You never know who might run out of money too soon, you never know which bargains will be lurking at the end and you can't predict anyone else's game plan. In a round-by-round draft, I can see who's picking No. 2 and guess "He's going to do this, this and this" and probably be right. In an auction? No way.) Because simmering tensions can bubble to the surface, usually when two dudes who secretly don't like each other suddenly get into a rooster-swinging contest over some random QB. Because nothing's more fun than bidding someone else up, and nothing's less fun than getting stuck with that player if the other owner backs off. Because it's always fun to make fun of the one guy who outsmarted himself and got stuck with $20-$25 he can't use. And best of all, because someone like Chris Johnson goes to the highest bidder instead of someone who just lucked out by pulling an ace from a deck of cards.

 

 

(Put it this way: I have never, not once, talked to someone who did a fantasy auction, then decided afterward, "Nahhhhh, I still like round-by-round more." Also, some leagues have an auction until every team acquires eight or 10 players, then they go round-by-round after that. Or, as I'd like to christen this idea right now, "The Surf and Turf." I like this wrinkle. Best of both worlds.)

 

 

Recommendation No. 3: Keepers.
You get more attached to keepers. They become YOUR guys. (See the Santana sidebar above.) In fantasy football, you never get attached for more than four months. I've heard some quality round-by-round keeper ideas that I'm not passing along because, again, round-by-round drafts are for unimaginative, stubborn wimps. For auction keepers, here's what I recommend: Keep up to four players per season; keep any player for up to four years; anyone you drafted in 2010 can be kept for an extra $10 in 2011, then you have the right to sign them for TWO extra years for $15 more (Year 3) and another $5 (Year 4). But you have to decide after Year 2 whether you're giving him two more years or letting him go.

 

 

For example, let's say you drafted Miles Austin for $1 last year. You get him for $11 in 2010. That's done. After 2010, you can either let him go or sign him for two more years ($26 in Year 3, $31 in Year 4.) But here's the catch: Let's say he gets hurt in Year 3, goes in the tank, whatever. You're stuck with him in Year 4. You signed him to a two-year deal! Even if you waive him, that $31 stays on your cap. So really, you're dealing with the same cap risks as a real NFL team. I love this idea. Personally, I wouldn't keep anyone past that second year unless I struck gold with someone like Peterson … but you never know.

 

 

Here's where that keeper wrinkle goes to another level: Let's say I steal Ben Tate for $6 because everyone else runs out of money. Tate goes bonkers in Houston and passes 1,000 rushing yards by Week 8. I'm fighting for the title with two other owners and need to swing a blockbuster deal for a stud QB because my Matt Leinart/Jay Cutler combo isn't quite cutting it. My buddy Sal (1-7 and headed for last place) has Brees and Rice, so I offer him Tate and Cutler for Brees and Rice. For me, Rice matches Tate's numbers and I get the massive Brees upgrade. For Sal, he gets a fantastic keeper (Tate at $16 in 2011). Everyone wins. Any idea that promotes continuity, encourages trading and/or keeps crappy fantasy owners engaged is a good one … right?

 

 

(P.S.: You know how it's sneaky-boring to hear about any fantasy trade someone else made? Tell me you weren't riveted by that Tate/Cutler for Brees/Rice trade scenario. All that thing needed was Adam Schefter reporting it. That reminds me … )

And in terms of an Auction draft, I'm willing to try anything once.

for the record, im all for an auction too but i just want everyone to have a good time so if ppl are totally against it a regular draft is fine

nick set the poll up. 3 options:

1. keep it the way it is aka simple unimaginative wimp way
2. keep it the way it is, with an auction draft
3. auction draft, keeper league bill simmons rules

ok but were only gonna get 4 votes and i think everyone has made their opinion clear

make everyone in the league vote its as simple as that