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i think falcons are getting hard knocks.  good or bad thing?



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why is there a new NFL thread?

The would be ok but id rather see the Steelers do it.

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new thread cuz we cant acess all the pages anymore, it just goes first and last.



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and danny offically has 1 week before i life defriend him if he doesnt start posting again. i need some draft predictions from him n were 2 weeks away!



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calvin johson vs cam newton for the madden cover



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did i write this?  no, i was just a year ahead!

2nd-Round QB Success Rate

Monday, April 16, 2012


 

We took a look last January at the plight of quarterbacks who've been drafted in the second round since 1991. The results weren't pretty. This column is an update on that blog post.

It's been more than ten years since the second round of the draft produced a surefire franchise quarterback. Drew Brees was the 32nd pick in 2001, before the league expanded to 32 teams.

Second-round quarterbacks since Brees:

Andy Dalton (Bengals), 2011
Colin Kaepernick (49ers), 2011
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers), 2010
Pat White (Dolphins), 2009
Brian Brohm (Packers), 2008
Chad Henne (Dolphins), 2008
Kevin Kolb (Eagles), 2007
John Beck (Dolphins), 2007
Drew Stanton (Lions), 2007
Kellen Clemens (Jets), 2006
Tarvaris Jackson (Vikings), 2006

*No quarterbacks were drafted in the second round of the 2002-2005 drafts.

Dalton did show some signs that he'll be able to handle the position capably, but he will have to contend with physical limitations for the duration of his pro career. The league also seemed to catch onto Dalton's act as his first season progressed. In the Bengals' final nine games, including the playoffs, Dalton completed just 169-of-301 passes (56.1%) for 1,959 yards (6.51 YPA) with seven touchdowns and 12 turnovers. The jury is still very much out on last year's 35th overall pick.

The NFL's history of second-round quarterback whiffs extends around Brees and all the way back to Brett Favre ('91).

Second-round quarterbacks between Brees and Favre:


Quincy Carter (Cowboys), 2001 - 34 starts
Marques Tuiasosopo (Raiders), 2001 - 2 starts
Shaun King (Bucs), 1999 - 24 starts
Charlie Batch (Lions), 1998 - 53 starts
Jake Plummer (Cardinals) - 136 starts
Tony Banks (Rams), 1996 - 78 starts
Todd Collins (Bills), 1995 - 21 starts
Kordell Stewart (Steelers), 1995 - 87 starts, career 77:84 TD-to-INT ratio
Matt Blundin (Chiefs), 1992 - 0 starts
Tony Sacca (Cardinals), 1992 - 0 starts

Favre was the 33rd overall pick in the 1991 draft. If you generously include Plummer and rush to crown Dalton, the NFL is 3-for-22 on second-round signal callers in the past 20 drafts.


There is still reason for optimism on Kaepernick and perhaps Kolb, although the latter's skittish pocket presence will likely doom him in the pros. So perhaps one or two more of the 22 second-rounders will emerge as long-term answers at the quarterback position.

They just won't have history on their side.



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BREAKING NEWS

MY SOURCES IN INDY HAVE TOLD ME THAT THE COLTS HAVE OFFICIALLY TOLD ANDREW LUCK THAT HE WILL BE THE NUMBER ONE PICK!

(as if there was any doubt)

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the suspense is over!  now the redskins can pick griffen and the vikes can be on the clock.  we can have the 1st round done before thursday!



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im sure you guys read on pft that theyre gonna stop announcing the picks on tv before godell, this is great news

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Yeah I'm a fan of it

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ya i hated that. i hope they dont go to the green room n put the camera on the player before the pick either, that ruins it just as much



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Officially T-Minus one week from the 2012 NFL Draft, get yah popcorn ready

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sad day today.  end of an era kind of day.  1st it is now offical the riverside boys will all be going there seperate ways after living on riverside for almost 3 years (and me with them for even longer than that).  but more terrible news is that the ledgen Brian Dawkins has retired from the NFL today.  please, a moment of silence for my favorite player of all time.

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better chance of mkaing the HOF 5 years from today hines ward or brian dawkins?



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neither will be first ballot.



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i think both get in eventually, i think dawkins gets in before ward.  i think 1st ballet is a possibilty for dawkins tho.

just like in hockey philly > pitts



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Both will get in.

Neither will be first ballot.

Slap bet?

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yea crazy. i wonder if it was suicide no.gif



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james harrison should just start killing players on the field so they dont have to worry about doing it themselves later in life

too soon?



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http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/snl-promo-eli-manning/1399292



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DAAAMN:

Vilma done for the year!

In addition to Vilma, defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove (now with the Green Bay Packers) was suspended eight games, defensive Will Smith four games and linebacker Scott Fujita (now with the Cleveland Browns) three games.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7881761/nfl-bans-four-players-new-orleans-saints-bounty-roles



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WOW WOW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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from now on, whatever u think goodell is gonna do punishment wise we should:

- think the worst

- double it



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Unconfirmed reports are coming in that Junior Seau has been shot and killed in his home.

More news to come.

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Suicide is indeed being suspected at this moment.

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goodell better hope its not due to this concussion and all the brain trama/dementia lawsuits or things could get ugly.



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never too soon.

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pft says suggs tore his achillies.  remember when he said he's from "ball so hard U."  well i guess last night he "BALLED TOO HARD!"  Get it? haha

 



-- Edited by MFisH on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 02:25:35 PM

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in all honesty ill miss suggs. he is easily my favorite Raven and it sucks he had to get injured to ravens fans have an excuse now when they get swept.

ben is LOVING this offseason

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so... whats the ravens achilles heel now that Suggs is out?

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suggs seems to think he will be back in october



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so how many wr's do the pats need again?

 The signing of Jabar Gaffney on Wednesday gives the Patriots yet another player at a position where they already had franchise player Wes Welker, veteran holdovers Deion Branch, Chad Ochocinco,Matthew Slater and Julian Edelman, this year’s free agent signings Brandon Lloyd, Anthony Gonzalez and Donte Stallworth, and seventh-round rookie Jeremy Ebert.



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ya they have 8 #2s

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damn daquan bowers tore his achellis too. he dropped cause of injuries to his knees, that guy cant win



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well achillies isnt his knees so i dont know if its related but damn that sucks.  if the injuries are related than ya thats y teams do so extensive background medical checks cuz this is a big investment.

 



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this is also the 3rd guy (at least) who has tore his achillies before MINI CAMP has even started thats crazy.  remember last offseason all these "experts" who blamed the lockout because of bunch of guys where also tearing their achillies.  guess this proves that they shouldnt have made that claim last year and also kinda proves theres no evidence about the nba lockout n this years injuries



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nick ur boy jason la canfora is gonna be on cbs now instead of nfl network. i no what pregame show ur gonna watch now



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yea i saw and commented that anyone would be better than that ratbird homer. i guess its cool to have a guy with rolled up sleeves, bad hair and no inside info. i dunno how hes gonna reword and report things 1 minute after schefter does when hes on air!

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haha. my top 6 insiders:

1. adam schefter

2. peter king

3. mike florio

4. the mort report

5. mike lomardi (does he count?)

6. jay glazer

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86. jason la conforna 



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why lombardi? haha thats random. you dont have a eagles insider?

1. king
2. schefter
3. mort
4. florio
5. bouchette
6. glazer

oo. la canfora (yes thats the infinity sign)

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i have a bunch of eagle guys i like on twitter, i was going national tho. 

and lombardi is the man.  his and bill simmons podcasts are a must listen



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point proven?

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because he was one time the #1 overall pick then dropped to the second round because of knee injuries. now he injuries his achilles. a knee injury would make sense but a completly unrelated injury just sucks

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give it up jason, ur always going to be 2nd



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pretty much every jason la confora tweet can be tied to an adam scefter tweet within the past 5 minnutes.

you know hes from bmore right?

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na i didnt.  i know kiper is, im pretty sure he still lives here too



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anyone else bored AF?

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