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nick, i agree with u here, and everything u said makes sense.  although u r definitly right a qb in the 1st round is more of a risk because the team has so much invested in them (money, expectation, ect), i think drafting a qb in the 2nd round is more of a risk because theres a smaller chance he actually works out, n then u wasted time n eventually u have to draft a qb in a later draft with that same 1st rounder (see carolina with clausen and miami with henne). 

if i was a team n needed a qb i would do exatcly what the jets did, and if they cant get a top guy where there drafting u might have to give up a little extra picks to move up in the draft n get him.  but hey jets went to back to back afc championship games i dont see them complaining about the extra picks they had to give up. 

agree, but that rodgers situation was a little different.  a lot of teams thought rodgers was better than smith and the 49ers almost drafted him #1, he was never viewed as a 2nd rounder to anyone like an andy dalton or ponder, he just slipped. why he slipped 20-some more picks is beyond me, and i like how he was the 2nd qb taken that year and now this year theres prolly gonna b 7 qbs taken by the middle of the second round.  crazy how many teams r so desperate for qbs now, its only been a few years.

According to NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora, TCU QB Andy Dalton is the quarterback "generating the most late buzz," and he could go as high as No. 8 overall.
The Titans reportedly consider Dalton "an elite prospect who carries less of the varied risk" of other QBs in the draft. One source tells LaCanfora that the Titans' offensive coaches are pushing for Dalton while the defensive staff loves Auburn DT Nick Fairley. Dalton is becoming an interesting test case with three reliable, high-profile NFL insiders suggesting he's a lead-pipe lock for the first round while film wonks continue to cast skepticism on his NFL future.


INTRIGUE!!!!!

I personally can not wait for this draft!!!

Jpoo wrote:

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According to NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora, TCU QB Andy Dalton is the quarterback "generating the most late buzz," and he could go as high as No. 8 overall.
The Titans reportedly consider Dalton "an elite prospect who carries less of the varied risk" of other QBs in the draft. One source tells LaCanfora that the Titans' offensive coaches are pushing for Dalton while the defensive staff loves Auburn DT Nick Fairley. Dalton is becoming an interesting test case with three reliable, high-profile NFL insiders suggesting he's a lead-pipe lock for the first round while film wonks continue to cast skepticism on his NFL future.

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 i heard this too, pft also reported a guy thinks he has 4th round talent haha.  pretty crazy one guy thinks he is a 4th rounder and the other thinks a top 10 pick.  and we wonder why teams always get qbs wrong

 

ur not even going to remember who the steelers picked by the time ur done with this game haha

i thought this was pretty cool

 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Von-Miller-then-and-now-How-recruits-grow-and?urn=ncaaf-wp1188

Fish this sounds like us a couple weeks ago

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/23773/for-locker-and-gabbert-sooner-or-later

ill def give u props on that. very good call. a lot of ppl even when he was drafted didnt think it was a smart pick and everything ive read from the eagles reporters says hes been starter from day 1 and has been pretty good. its still very early tho so lets see, but im hoping ur right on this one as well

april 18th

 

MFisH wrote:

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haha thanks for the high praise.  i emailed that same question to peter king so i hope he agrees with u and posts my question in his mailbag 2mrw.  but ya, i dont even think a qb should be taken in the 2nd round unless it was a kevin kolb type pick, where the starter is gonna b there for a few more years and u want him as ur future qb.  but as the eagles just showed, that didnt even work out so well.  if u need a qb, u need to get them in the 1st round, and normally in the 1st half of the 1st round.  as u said there are only gonna b a few of them who can lead a team, and normally u no if there gonna b good so u gotta draft them early.  using a 2nd rounder on them means they have potential, but there not good enough to be 1st rounders, that is basically wasting a very high pick when u can easily draft a pro bowl skill position in that slot, such as a leasen mccoy or deseasn jackson.  u either draft a qb early in the 1st, or wait til the later rounds (4th on) and hope u can develop them, taking a 2nd rounder is a normally a wasted pick

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6ixty wrote:

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#noonecares about your explinations

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 weird cuz forsters exact post was:

where was this theory last year when kolb was pencilled in as the starting QB, you also seem to respect him down in AZ even though he was a 2nd round pick

looks like #someonecare which was the reason for the post

ill waste as much time as needed at work to prove a point!

Im gonna do it, thats right... JPOO'a FIRST SHOT AT A MOCK DRAFT FOR THE 2012 SEASON.

MADNESS YOU SAY!

Kinda, but its more like boredom. Anywho, without further ado, lets break it down!

1.Seattle Seahawks - Andrew Luck QB Stanford

Tavaris Jackson is just that bad, no really. I think Pete Carroll will be FOAMING at the mouth if he has the chance to coach this guy.

2. Kansas City Chiefs - Matt Barkley QB USC

The Matt Cassell days are reaching their end. Its obvious that he was a product of the NE system, he just looks like dog ****. I think the Chiefs will admit defeat on the Cassell Project(sounds like a band name) and hope that Barkley can be a blue chip prospect and give them a true franchise QB for the next decade.

3.Indianapolis Colts - Mat Kalil OT USC

Peyton will be back, and he'll be around for a couple more years, so drafting a QB isn't necessary yet. Imagine though if for once in his career he actually had a half decent offensive line that gave him time to throw? Flip Costanzo out to RT and line this beast up at LT, and Peyton may be even scarier than he ever was!

4.Cincinnati Bengals - Quentin Coples DE UNC

This dudes a beast, and you could always use another pass rusher!

5.San Francisco 49er's - Landry Jones QB Oklahoma

Harbaugh + Good QB = Awesomeness. Colin Kapernick(did you know that guy was black cause i sure as hell didn't, who names a black guy colin?!) is yesterdays news, meet the new boss!

6.Jacksonville Jaguars - Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma St.

So they got their QB of the future, now it's time to give him someone to throw to. Enter Blackmon, a BEAST. Him and Gabbert will be making sweet music for many years to come.

7.Minnesota Vikings - Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina

Harry Douglas and Bernard Berrian are your two starting flankers... REALLY?! REALLY?! You expected this to work out how? Alshon will come in for Year two of the McNabb era in minny, and then transition to being a weapon for Ponder in the future. DOUGLAS AND BERRIAN?!?!?!?!?

8.Miami Dolphins - Jonathan Martin OT Stanton

Marco Colombo is a PIECE OF ****, time to upgrade to give Daniel Thomas all the running room he'll ever need!

9. Denver Broncos - Reily Reiff OT Iowa

That line besides Clady is awful, time to get better!

10.St.Louis Rams - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama

Can you name a CB on the Rams? Me neither, OBVIOUS.

11.Carolina Panthers - Jared Crick DT Nebraska

Newtons been awesome, and is obviously going to be a Stud. He already has a bunch of toys on offense to get the job done, now its time for Ron Rivera's specialty... DEFENSE. Enter Crick the panthers can't stop the run for ****, and Crick should help to bring some solidarity to that D-Line.

12.Tennessee Titans - Vontaze Burifict - ILB ASU

Ruud is working on one year contract and is a huge liability in coverage thus far. Vontaze will be a beast of a linebacker and will be the QB of that defense for years to come.

13.Tanpa Bay Buccaneers - Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska

Aqib Talib (while a thug and a half) is a stud, Ronde Barber is awesome but dude the guys like 80 with almost no one ready to take his place. Dennard can step in and take over for Ronde in the future.

14. Cleveland Browns - Brandon Thompson DT Clemson

Non existent pass rush, insert Thompson, double teams needed, pass rush created. Also will team up with Phil Taylor to form a very nice DT tandem for years to come.

15.Washington Redskins - Morris Claiborne CB LSU

Deangelo Hall isn't as good as the media makes him out to be, take away those 4 picks on cutler last year and Deangelo doesn't even sniff the pro bowl. Morris will help what is becoming a very good defense.





16-30 will follow sometime later this week

extreme boredom and research.... mostly having absolutely nothing to do at work.

so danny, going back to the last time the phins had the #1 pick and use it on jake long, how do u feel about that pick.  he is def not a bust and def worthy of a top 2-3 pick, but looking back, would u have rather used that pick on a qb like matt ryan? 

Mat Kalil out of USC

I mean think "Butterfly Effect" here.

Drew Brees is a Dolphin. Miami has won a Super Bowl. Arnold Achwartzenegger is president. Barack Obama is selling hotdogs at Cubs games. Kearns is CEO of Office Max.

It kind of freaks me out to think of what it could be like.

Yes Josh, it is scary to think. Never will it be brought up again.

all is not lost, the fins got sage rosenfels! Sage to the rescue, 12-4 doesnt seem so impossible now

from apr 22nd

MFisH wrote:

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best bet to be great:

-netwon and ryan mallet

best chance to be a decent starter:

-dalton, Colin Kaepernick

Bust:

-Locker, Gabbert

backups:

-ponder, ricky stanzi

biggest risk:

mallet

 

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 DAMN SON, look at these predictions (from before the draft), i should be a qb drafter for some teams (jags).

btw, as ive been saying since day 1, gabbert is gonna suck.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/31/blaine-gabbert-getting-worse-as-rookie-year-progresses/

have u seen what cam newton is doing this year?  this isnt 10 years ago where rookie qb consistently struggle.  i thought gabbert was gonna suck since day 1 when he declared himself for the draft and ppl where saying he might be the #1 overall pick and all hes done since is be the worst qb in the league.  not saying its over for him, but it doesnt look good, esp when 3 rookie qbs already look like there gonna be good/great.

Gabbert really hasn't been god awful. He's already wayyyyyyy better than Jimmy Clausen ever was last year.

the jags havent passed for more than 100 yards in 3 straight games.  cam newton threw for over 400 in his first 2.  just cuz hes not as bad as clausin was last year doesnt mean he doesnt suck also.  maybe the jags should do what the panthers did last year and draft another qb this year haha

ya i remember, u said newton or fairley n nick was on the gabbert being #1 bandwagon haha.

BOLD PREDICTION

Cam Newton will win OROY.

I'm going out on a limb here guys.