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u do realize a 4 hr game has happened twice since 1993 (hamilton and carlos delgado) but there have been 7 perfect games since 1993 and 5 since 2010 right? how can something be more impressive when it happens triple the amount of times?



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MFisH wrote:

def agree about the unassisted triple play, it is more rare but it's more luck than the other 2.

i say 4 HR game is more impressive, there have been 21 perfect games in mlb history and there has only been 16 4 Hr games.

u could also argue that there only 2 pitchers per game who have the oppurtinty at a perfect game but there are 18 batters with an oppurtunity to get 4 HR's and the fact that there have been less of them to do it says how much harder it is to do.


 a little late on this but after king felix perfect game there have been 3 perfect games this year but still only 1 4 HR game (josh hamilton).  so again, which one is more impressive a 4 hr game or a perfect game?  i think the stats back it up!



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Stand by perfect game. No question.

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Someone hit 3 hrs in a game last night

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thats not 4



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i bet theres been 5-10 pitchers this year who've gone into the 7th inning with a perfect game and lost it



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im gonna go with e) who gives a ****? its too close to football season to be thinking MLB

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Too much has to go into getting a perfect game.

Not give a single walk.

Not give up a single hit.

27 up

27 down.

4 homeruns is more of a fluke thing.

Perfect Games are a feat and a half.

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The Expendables 3!

Featuring rodger clemens, bonds, sosa, raffie and pete rose!

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gabbert may or may not be cut depending on how much i hate her clingyness.

 

we acted like we ran bmore last time? haha oh god i barely even remember leaving the monster house.

 

anyways, ill be there at 630



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josh, give me the scenarios that include the o's getting a home game on friday....



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If the A's lose to Texas and finish second in A.L. West:
-- Orioles beat Tampa Bay and finish one game ahead of Oakland: A's would play Baltimore in wild-card game Friday at Camden Yards.
-- Orioles beat Tampa Bay and Yankees lose to Red Sox: Orioles and Yankees would play one-game tiebreaker Thursday at Camden Yards to determine A.L. East champion. A's would visit loser of Orioles-Yankees tiebreaker in one-game wild-card playoff on Friday. Winner would advance to ALDS against No. 1-seeded team, with series beginning Sunday at home of the lower-seeded team.


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interesting. i like the odds!  lets go rangers!



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its all for positioning thou right Os already made the playoffs and get a full series

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Yeah, if the Yanks lose tonight and the O's win, the O's win the AL East and will not have to play the 1 game wild card.

If they lose and the Yanks win they will have to play whoever the other wild card team is in a 1 game series.

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ya nick the o's are def in but MLB changed it this year to 5 teams (3 division winners, 2 wildcards) in each league makes the playoffs instead of 4.  so now the 2 wildcard teams play in this 1 game playoff series. 

worse case scenioro would be the o's play in this wildcard game ON THE ROAD, and then lose which would mean no getting hammered at pickles for your boy.

best case, play home friday game (don't care what kind) win, and then get a 5 game series.  that means multiple home games for your boy to get hammered at pickles.



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LAMO you guys really think the baltimore orioles are gonna win a one game playoff series on the road?

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They have basically the same record as the Yankees this year.


Stranger **** has happened, and their pitching staff is actually very solid.

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in a 1 game series, anything is possible!



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they play on friday either way right?

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strong chance but not a guarentee.  nick, i might need you to come down regardless.  i got this really good looking girl from work trying to come through so i need a strong wingman.  i got her all pumped for the o's game on friday so shes def down for that but if they dont play friday were gonna need to still have a strong night which is y i need u, kearns n motz wont work.  she loves to smoke n will bring **** so i got u there.



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you want me to put in all this work for you? haha does she have a friend for me?

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u dont need to do anywork, but i cant be going out to the bars one on one just yet.  we need to pretend like we run bmore like last time u were here.  and not sure if she does, last time she brought 2 girls but i dont think there gonna be around this weekend.  what about gabbert?  isnt this the perfect time to show her bmore...



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haha no we werent that bad.  actually we hung out in the back corner of stalking horse by ourselfs playing arcade games, basically the opposite of acting like a badass.  we then went to mad river just the 2 of us) n tore up the dance floor which was a lot of fun if u remember.



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im jp i remember dancing with the black girls. i may need to reconsider being exclusively the 3rd wheel thou on second thought. ppl are going if the Os plays so it might not be an issue

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relax dude.  if the o's play there will be a bunch of ppl who come down like paul and kearns whole house.  if not, ill tell her another weekend



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ive never been more disapointed in a team i barley root for in my entire life after last nights crushing o's loss to make them go on the road for the playoffs and might be the 1st team in mlb history to make the playoffs and not get a home game!  there was sooo much potential for a friday night home game!

with that said, i still have a good feeling pickles will be packed due to it being an 830 friday night game, and the first playoff game for baltimore in 15 years, so i expect great things.  i just wished it was a home game!



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very disapointing loss last night.  really hurts my chance for 1 more friday game (MUST win 2nite for that to now happen) and even worse chance for another home game (2 straight wins at yankees stadium) where theres a 50% chance of me getting another parking ticket or my cared towed, but ill take those odds if it leads to a great night.

anyway, how dead was yankees stadium last night?  growing up in nj and with a ton of yankee fans i remember the playoff crowds being like a football game.  who could forget the pedro game where the whole crowd chanted "who's your daddy" and they were losing pretty bad at that point but it was loud as hell and electric there.  last night, in a series changing game that was close the entire time i felt like it was just your average game in june there.  im guessing the new stadium priced out all the old fans who use to get hammered n make noise, now its all corporate.  its a shame, thats not NY home field advantage at all



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*clap**clap* **** THE YANKEES *clap**clap*

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The best part is they have A-Rod under contract till 2017!!!!

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ya thats really really bad.  this is why u dont sign 10 year contract to guys who a history of steriods!



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Arod is being benched tonight!!!!

29 million dollars this year is sitting on the bench!!!

This is why baseball pisses me off, a salary cap is needed so damn badly.

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ya i just saw that.  crazy. 



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Sorry I didn't answer your 2nd txt last night Fish, was in the middle of watching Skyfall.


The reason for last year was, they were opening a new stadium. They needed to put butts in the seats to make it look good basically. All in all the Marlins owner is massive scum. Here's just a few things that he's done throughout his MLB tenure.

·After purchasing the Montreal Expos in the 1990s, he immediately claimed that, without a new stadium, the team that was much beloved and supported by its fans and once was near the top of the National League in annual attendance could not compete without a new stadium. When public officials balked, he cut payroll and denigrated the City of Montreal as a baseball market.

·In 2000, unsatisfied with rights fees offered by English-speaking TV and radio broadcasters in Montreal, Loria allowed the Expos to play with no television or English radio broadcasts, preventing thousands of Expos fans from actually seeing or hearing Expos games.

·In selling the Expos, he received a sweetheart deal and no-interest loans from Major League Baseball which allowed him to buy the Marlins and with put the Expos into league receivership. When he left Montreal, he moved the Expos’ entire front office staff, on-field staff, office equipment and computer equipment to Florida, leaving new Expos general manager Omar Minaya with virtually no resources with which to field a competitive team.

·The atrophied remains of the Expos then served as an easy target for contraction threats by Major League Baseball designed to create leverage in labor negotiations with the MLBPA and had the effect of alienating all but the most die-hard Montreal baseball fans. As a result of both Loria’s acts as Expos manager and his complicity in the league’s use of the Expos as an example and bargaining chip, Montreal was utterly destroyed as a viable baseball market.

·Loria took over the Marlins in 2002. Between 2002 and 2010, the Marlins got around $300 million in revenue sharing and banked at least $154 million of it in pure profit.

·Two years ago, the Marlins were forced into an agreement with Major League Baseball and the player’s union to stop violating Article XXIV(B)(5)(a) of the Basic Agreement which requires revenue sharing money to be used to improve your team instead of lining ownership’s pockets.

·In addition to team team profits and the substantial appreciation of the franchise since he purchased it, Jeffrey Loria pays himself around $10 million a year in “administration fees.” As a result of last night’s trade, he is now paid nearly twice the salary of the Marlins’ highest-paid player.

·The ballpark which the Marlins convinced Miami to build them was paid for by the public against its will, was shady all around, led to public outrage which cost politicians their jobs and wound up costing far more, drawing far fewer fans than the team promised taxpayers it would and has led to virtually zero development of the surrounding area, contrary to the promises of Loria and his friends.

·A year ago Friday, David Samson talked big about the Marlins “rising payroll, higher revenues” and the team’s new way of doing things, a plan that lasted until roughly July.

·David Samson last March to a group of Miami business leaders: “I don’t have to hold back now that the stadium is built – not that I ever have …” He called people who run for office “not the cream of the intellectual crop,” adding about the entire population, “That’s not to say we’re not the smartest people in Miami. My guess is, if you’re in this room, we’re immediately in the top 1%.”



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haha wow, i didnt know this dude also owned the expos at one time.  i cant believe the marlins have won 2 world series with an owner like that while other well run franchises like the twins for example have not even come close in that time period. 

thats bad tho, this article basically shows the owner is only in it to make as much money as possible (like most owners are) but not care about the product on the field which at least the majority of sport owners are trying to win.  its like what is the point in owning a team? 



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And the winter meetings begin! Hold onto your butts.

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u like the david wright extension?  seems like 9 out of 10 times when guys sign deals longer than 7 years the team gets a bad deal



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They had to do it, I'm cool with it. They're a NY team, they should be able to have a big contract and not let it really affect payroll.

At the same time, if they had traded him for a package of great prospects, I'd of been fine with that as well.

All in all, it was probably a good move.


R.A. Dickey is on the block, really good chance he gets dealt.

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y would they trade the pitcher who just won the Cy youn?  are they giving up on next year already?



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They have no shot this year, it's a given.

They've got A LOT of promising arms in the minors right now, so there's all the reason to move him.

None the less that he's 38 and the knuckleball is a volatile pitch.

Currently the mets Need 2 starting outfielders and a starting catcher, at the moment, Pitching is an area of strength. So they're trading from a strength to correct a weakness.

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hamilton to the angels.

jeez is LA the only city allowed to spend money this year?

what is theor 3-5 going to look like?



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Damn

Makin NY look like the sticks

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how close are the steriod users getting in todays HOF vote? 

i say 35% for bonds and clemens and less than 25% for the rest (sosa, mcguire, etc)



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No clue, but if Piazza gets the snub I give up on HoF all together.

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ZERO PLAYERS VOTED INTO THE HOF

Officially done with that nonsense. Doesn't mean **** anymore.

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wow thats crazy.  these sportswriters man, they cant figure any way to vote.  some writers will not vote anyone from that time period in no matter what.  who would have thought with the #1 home run hitter of all time and the #1 pitcher of our generation eligible that craig biggio n jeff bagwell would get the most votes haha. looks like i was pretty close with my bonds/clemens 35% guess!

 

PlayerVotesPct
Craig Biggio38868.2
Jack Morris38567.7
Jeff Bagwell33959.6
Mike Piazza32957.8
Tim Raines29752.2
Lee Smith27247.8
Curt Schilling22138.8
Roger Clemens21437.6
Barry Bonds20636.2
Edgar Martinez20435.9
Alan Trammell19133.6
Larry Walker12321.6
Fred McGriff11820.7
Dale Murphy10618.6
Mark McGwire9616.9
Don Mattingly7513.2
Sammy Sosa7112.9
Rafael Palmeiro508.8


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opening day, one of the few days i dont mind baseball.  going on friday so i'm pretty pumped for that.

question tho, why is cole hamles starting for the phillies today?  lee and holiday hurt or something?



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Jus got back from Mets opening day, 11-2 with a grand salami for good measure....


Doc Halladay had a PITIFUL year last year, and thus far through spring training he's been getting smacked up a bit. Hamels deserves the start no question

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mets are gonna be loaded this year!



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