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Couple thoughts about this:

- Pakastan swore up and down for years to the US that they had no idea where Bin Laden was and that they were doing everything in their power to help the US find him. They pushed hard that he was in a remote cave in the mountains near the pakastan/afghan border. Well he was found and killed in a multi-million dollar luxury fortress just miles from where the Pakistani military is trained and housed. It BS for anyone to think for a second that they didnt know exaclty where he was and for how long he was staying there. They better hope for their sake they were working with the US for some time now on a plan to engage that fortress like we did last night. if it was comletely US intellegence that discovered and engaged the mission, Pakistan should be held jsut as accountable as bin laden and the war over there is just beginning.

- Why would they immediately move and bury the body at sea? I hope they have at least some pictures of the dead corpse cause it seems suspicious to me that they killed him then quickly buried him at sea where no one will ever find him.

- how sweet would it be to be part of that mission??

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very crazy day and pretty awsome.  all the crazy video games we see like socom and movies like black hawk down and this is the real life verison of that.  i mean these were the highest trained guys in the world like the delta forces and navy seals who did this mission, its amazing and so interesting.

i think the reason they buried the body is so pictures dont leak, so ppl dont mess with the body and piss of the taliban even more so theres no chance of some kind of even bigger retilation.  there already pissed, no need to egg it on even more with pictures.  there are also not trying to piss off any of the muslims that we have good relations with so they did what they normal do for funerals is what i read.

plus, the US isnt gonna realse pictures of a guy with a few bullet holes in his head, no matter what he did to us. 



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whats really crazy to me, as nick said, was how he was able to hide in a damn manison the past 5 years.  this would be like a terriorst living in a mansion in baltimore and nobody "knowing" about it.  seriously? the #1 most hunted man in the world in a maniosn 30 miles away from the countries captial and nobody knows?  lets be real here, we found saddam huessin in a hole someone in like a month, he was obviously extremely protected there



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they released pictures of husseins sons, its only a matter of time if u ask me

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The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden’s dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News.

“There’s no doubt it’s him,” says a US official who has seen the pictures and also reminds us that OBL was 6’4”.

The argument for releasing them: to ensure that the public knows and can appreciate that he's dead. There is of course skepticism throughout the world that the US government claim that it killed bin Laden is true.

The argument against releasing the pictures: they’re gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible.



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RELEASE THEMMMMM

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after reading that i think they will be evenutally released



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Senior defense officials said that for a majority of the 40 minute operation at the Abbottobad compound special operations forces were involved in a firefight - clearing their way through two other floors before they reached Osama bin Laden.

Bin Laden was not killed until the last five to ten minutes of the firefight, officials said.


Bin Laden and his family lived on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the 3-story building, and those floors were cleared last, the official said. The official says one of bin Laden’s own wives identified his body to U.S. forces, after the team made visual identification themselves.

U.S. forces also recovered what a senior Intelligence official is calling “quite a bit of material.”

“There’s a robust collection of materials we need to sift through, and we hope to find valuable intelligence that will lead us to other players in Al Qaeda," a senior intelligence official said.

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A 40 minute shootout with osama bin laden holy **** that would be intense!

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ya seriously, i wanna play that video game!  they need to make a movie out of this that would be SICK



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where the hell is danny at i thought he would be all over this...

score one for the HWHITES! (no typo)

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Florio gets his ass handed to him.....

Florio wrote this assanine article...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/02/bin-ladens-death-could-raise-stakes-in-the-lockout/


and was absolutely sh!t all over by some dude from dead spin.

http://deadspin.com/#!5797646/bin-ladens-death-means-something-or-other-for-the-nfl-lockout-according-to-some-****-mike-florio-threw-at-the-wall



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i get what the guy is saying, but i didnt mind florios article.  i mean we dont go on pft to see the world news, but this is obviously one of the biggest national stories in a long time n this is the only relation to the nfl, which is what florio is paid to write about.  i agree with the deadspin guy that not too many ppl are thinking about football on a day like today but i agree with florio where he said the nfl is going to look even more greedy if that day comes and there is still a lockout



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this forum is deader than bin laden... what gives?

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i spent about 4 hours reading every bin laden article that i did nothing at work n now have to catch up.  i havent even been on pft yet or looked at any heat article!



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for anyone who thinks the death pic of him is real, its not, its a fake and its been reported by multiple ppl, heres one link:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-death-photo-a-hoax



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haha josh I emailed a link to that article to Florio and he wrote back! I dont think he was happy thou haha he didnt say much but it was pretty much GTFO of here

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OH MAN, I'd LOVE to read that ish!

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Nickkkk whats your boy Rasahard thinking?!?

Rashard Mendenhall is a moron



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wow. what a ****ing idiot.  didnt he also agree with adrain peterson about the nfl lockout being like slavery?  this guy needs his twitter account removed asap.



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Mendenhall’s Twitter comments included criticism of people who celebrated bin Laden’s death and doubts about what really took down the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.

“We’ll never know what really happened,” Mendenhall said. “I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style.”



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well i think kanye has something to say about all this too...




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my response on PFT...


This is just one tweet out of a series of 10 tweets which was taken out of context in this article…

I’m not condoning what Mendenhall said but I think his rant was geared more toward the fact that people were celebrating bin Ladens death and not the fact that justice had finally been served. He went on to tweet:

“I believe in God. I believe we’re ALL his children. And I believe HE is the ONE and ONLY judge.”

“For those of you who said you want to see Bin Laden burn in hell … I ask how would God feel about your heart?”

“Those who judge others, will also be judged themselves.”

It wasnt a rant supporting bin Laden like you have clearly made it out to be twice now, and while I disagree in questioning that bin Laden was behind the attacks, you can’t attack a guy for believing that death was an inappropriate outcome.

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one of the worst scenes from all of 9/11 was the camera footage of muslim people celebrating the attacks in the street of their country. Guess what we did when we retailated?

 

 

Im not saying im not happy about it but this is what mendenhall was getting at and PTF failed to even mention it because mendenhall saying "ive never seen a plane take down a building" generates more page hits


 



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hes not a "****ing idiot" by any means



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while i get the whole series of religious tweets, although i dont agree with any of it, he does have a right to say it, the quote that really gets me is this:

“We’ll never know what really happened,” Mendenhall said. “I just have a hard time believing a plane could take a skyscraper down demolition style.”

wtf does he mean we'll never know what really happened?  did he not watch a plane crash into the building and then have it crash down?  what doesnt he believe? 

and what does he want from bin laden, for him to get captured and brought to trail?  ya there wouldnt be any retilation then or al-qadea trying to free him then.  the guy was responsible for killing 3000 innocent people and brought war to the united states and mendhall is wondering why people are celebrating his death?  maybe he is a smart guy, and he seems religious, but u have to be an idiot to not wonder why ppl are happy about this, and yes these are completly idiotic comments.   



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u would be surprised at the number of people who believe our government had something to do with 9/11 and the amount of evidence that they have to support their theory. I dont believe it but a lot of people do...

none of us know **** about politics but there are hundreds of different views on every subject. maybe his tweet about the planes crashing into buildings was dumb but to say these comments are completly idiotic especially when hes talking about his religion is pretty ignorant IMO

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there are a lot of ppl who think we never went to the moon either, its called a conspiracy. 

like i said, im not bashing his religous comments, he has every right to say whatever he wants, and part of what he is saying is true, but everyone also has a right to call him an idiot.  the part i dont get is when he says "nobody really knows what happend" like wtf does that even mean.



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6ixty wrote:

u would be surprised at the number of people who believe our government had something to do with 9/11 and the amount of evidence that they have to support their theory. I dont believe it but a lot of people do...

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there are also a lot of ppl who think ufo's come down n probe humans.  if someone tweeted "We’ll never know what really happened,” then i would call him an idiot for that as well. 

regardless, that part was an extremely dumb comment, esp considering how many ppl feel so strongly about 9/11.  sometimes the best thing to say is nothing



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It all stems from Hitler back in the day with his false flag operation. He had his troops burn down the parliament building (or something to that effect) and blamed an outside country for it. By doing this the country allowed him to take on even more power so he could "protect" them better. A lot of people draw correlations to 9/11, That Bush was behind the attacks so he could grant himself more power over the people ( AKA the Patriot Act). Personally I feel it's all horse ****.

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fish im gonna rent loose change, and after we watch it we can have a much more informative discussion.

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that makes sense.  but its a conspiracy and theres always gonna be ppl who dont believe the story no matter what it is.  there are ppl out there who probably think osama wasnt killed and this was all made up too.  doesnt mean u can say whatever u want and not be called an idiot for it



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6ixty wrote:

fish im gonna rent loose change, and after we watch it we can have a much more informative discussion.


 nick, its just a conspircay movie, im sure any smart producer/director can find a couple things and turn into something that makes sense.  i can show u some shows about how we didnt get to the moon its all just twisted facts



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Loose change is bull**** FYI, first time i watched it i was floored but a lot of it is misconstrued to fit their own purposes..... as you can see here


http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html


and here

 

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/top-lies-and-deceptions-of-loose.html

 

and from our government itself...

 

http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/March/20070330134723abretnuh0.9919245.html



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if u get it, i would watch it and think it would be somewhat interesting.  but with that said, u gotta realize what it is.  also, from wikipedia, "The film's main claims have been refuted by journalists,[7] independent and 9/11 Truth researchers,[8][9] and prominent members of the scientific and engineering community.[10]"



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A few things.

1. They didn't bury his body because they feared people trying to excavate it, or make a shrine out of it. Also, they disposed of the body so quick because they were being sensitive to Muslim beliefs of how to handle the dead.

2. Seal Team Six is based out of Dam Neck, VA and are bad ass m f'ers. My brother went through OCS with a guy who continued onto BUDS training, became a SEAL, and was assigned to Team Six. Its unknown if he was part of one of the platoons involved with the raid. Matt is trying to get in contact with him, I'll let you know. These guys are old school though, you will never know what really went down, who took the shot, hear or know their identitys. Never.

3. Loose Change is movie produced by douche bags in college who don't know the difference between a pep rally and a political rally.

4. People who think either 9/11 or bin Laden is a conspiracy should move to Canada and are douche bags.

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5. Rashard Mendenhall is a moron. Go fcuk yourself Reshard.

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Upvote every single one of Dan's statements!

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Thats why I like you Josh. Your a smart American. A smart American is someone who trusts their government with these types of things. Also, most people in America are not smart or responsible enough to be fully disclosed to what is going on in this crazy world we live in, so the government is forced to keep some things a secret. It is in everyones best interest.

But with that said, America still allows douche bags like Mendenhall to say whatever he wants. Freedom, straight freedom. Word.

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Best part is im about as liberal as it gets too

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you are all naieve! if you think there arent thousands of things the government doesnt want you to know, and im not talking about 9/11, you are absolutely crazy.

i dont believe the 9/11 stuff but its damn interesting

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Of course the government hides things. HELLLOOO WIKILEAKS?! But in the end, do we really need to know all of it? Of course that questions debatable.

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i was about to say, ever heard of wikileaks??

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And I'm about conservative as it gets. There is some beauty in our mutuality.

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ya i think everyone knows the government hold back stuff, and its for the countries best interest.  that doesnt mean they help set up 9/11 to get more power, thats one extreme to another.  they hold back things that would harm US security and maybe things that are too harsh for the public to know what really goes on.



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http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/185661/the-war-song-war#searchterm=im%20a%20little%20bit%20country



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Oh and just for good measure im pretty sure Cartman was a member of Seal Team 6

 

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/152966/ive-got-stevie-nicks#tag=Osama%20bin%20Laden



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what i dont get is osama was in this house for around 5 years they think, n they've known about it since at least august, but yet theyve never actually seen him in it.  so r they saying he hasnt been outside for at least 6 months? he also didnt have any phones, what the hell did this guy do all day?  HBO Pakistan must have some bomb ass movies on everyday for this dude to never want to leave his house!



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hahaha HBO Pakastan fish i think the point was to not come out of the house so he didnt get his head blown off!



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so what did this homo do all day then?  imagine never leaving ur house or having no phones?  does the tali-ban have some kind of new video games they play?  also, i like how this guy used his wife as a shield when the seals came to cap his ass.  i guess one of his quaities does not include being a loving husband.



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