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MFisH · Negus

RE: 2013 NFL DRAFT

MFisH · Negus

i think comparing leaders is very dumb, but its a fact nfl teams need good leaders to be a good team which y u see teams like the pats, ravens always winning and steelers and eagles in their good days all had strong leaders and put up results. now that the eagles n steelers lost a lot of those players their teams are struggling. luckily eagles have a new coaching staff and a new era, too bad the steelers are stuck in .500 land.

6ixty · Young Money

Jpoo wrote:
Okay who's team has the best "leaders" (this is an insanely dumb argument.)

Eagles: Herremans, Peters, Ryans, T. Cole

Steelers: Clark, Big Ben, Ike Taylor, Brett Kiesel

Giants: Eli, Tuck, Antrel Rolle, Chris Snee

-- Edited by Jpoo on Wednesday 17th of April 2013 08:04:07 PM

this has been my point all along.

MFisH · Negus

Team needs: Pittsburgh Steelers

Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2013, 8:56 AM EDT

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The Steelers need something that few draft picks ever immediately give any team: leadership. The only way to fix that moving forward is to find players who are likely to become leaders in the future. Of course, there may not be a future for the people picking the players if the team doesn’t improve before this year’s rookies become some future year’s leaders. So here are the areas where the Steelers need to focus in order to buy time for this year’s incoming players to eventually become leaders.

MFisH · Negus

your just mad cuz i called it at the beggining of last year that the steelers would struggle when they lost their leadership and then it became true and they went 8-8 so this is your way of making fun of the situation.

MFisH · Negus

not every thing is black or white, or in ur case 0 or 60. but it played a role. some teams can control it and some cant. just like injuries, some teams can handle them (giants when the won the super bowl is an example) and some teams goes 4-12. there is no formula that calucalates wins per leadership but im sorry u dont understand how football or team sports work if you dont think leadership plays a major role.

MFisH · Negus

see how you would do on the wonderlick...

http://www.nicholascreative.com/footballiq/index.php?reset=true

Jpoo · Guru

MFisH · Negus

if u really did that, that is extremely impressive. plus u had 36 seconds to spare. i only got a 33!

Jpoo · Guru

Always been smart, math for the most part was pretty easy.

MFisH · Negus

looks like your now qualified to be the 3rd string qb on the jets

Jpoo · Guru

Im pretty sure i qualified for that even without a wonderlic test

MFisH · Negus

6ixty wrote:
fish how you feel about lane johnson?

lane johnson's 40 time was better than aquan boldin and his vertical was the same as aj green.

beast. this dude should be playing WR!

Jpoo · Guru

Teams best fear when he reports in as an eligible receiver.

6ixty · Young Money

you guys listen to mayocks conference call? listed to it in bed last night it was pretty cool. i think thats where the 40 time and vertical and all that came up

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap1000000159176/Mike-Mayock-Draft-Conference-Call

Jpoo · Guru

1:44 for explination.

-- Edited by Jpoo on Tuesday 23rd of April 2013 06:30:02 PM

MFisH · Negus

uh oh...

Overrated

Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon

Jordan, who keeps showing up as a top-five pick in every mock draft I see, finished third in tackles for loss in 2012. Third in the nation? No. There wasn't a No. 3 because South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney (the likely No. 1 pick in the 2014 draft) and Arizona State defensive tackle Will Sutton tied for second with 23.5. Third in the Pac-12? Nope. That was UCLA linebacker Anthony Barr. Jordan finished No. 3 in tackles for loss on his own team with 10.5 (five sacks). And he might go second or third overall?

I get that Jordan's size (6-foot-6, 248 pounds) means he can play defensive end in a 4-3 or outside linebacker in a 3-4, but the idea that a 3-4 team needing a disruptive rusher would take Jordan over Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones -- No. 1 in the nation with 24.5 tackles for loss even though he missed one game with an injury -- is absolutely dumbfounding. At least Jones will go elsewhere in the first round. Stanford's Thomas (6-4, 248) will go three to four rounds after Jordan, and all Thomas did -- playing against the same offensive lines as Jordan -- was get in the backfield more often (14.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks).

6ixty · Young Money

i dont think anyone has any clue whats about to go down on thursday

Jpoo · Guru

Sounds like a standard draft week story leak to drive down value so a lower team hopes to get him to me.

MFisH · Negus

na, its just 1 man's opinion, there are no quotes from unnamed sources in here. he makes some good points tho, how is a top 5 pick only 3rd on his team in tackles for loss? i've always been higher on jarvis jones and dont understand how he is not a top 10 pick so i guess we'll see.

6ixty · Young Money

because 40 times mean more than production.

just kidding, of course, but even mcshay, kiper and mayock dont know ****. jones very well could be drafted ahead of jordan. remember bruce irvin at this time last year? yeah me neither

MFisH · Negus

that is true. but this year has been even more crazy than previous years where picks from #2 on are this uncertain. last year everyone knew the top 5 in some order but other than jockel nobody knows where any1 is going.

speaking of the draft, tonight has a 30 for 30 about the 1983 draft that im sure is going to be very interesting

6ixty · Young Money

right which is why no one has any idea whats gonna happen at 4 let alone 17. are we doing mock drafts this year?

Jpoo · Guru

I wish I could watch, but fortunately I'll be in the Garden watching the Knicks beat up the celtics, #knickstape

6ixty · Young Money

i know its been going on forever but can someone explain the knickstape hash tag to me?

Jpoo · Guru

Jpoo · Guru

Im down for Mocks, Thursday by 5 oclock?

6ixty · Young Money

damn thats a lot more deep and a lot cooler than i thought it would be

6ixty · Young Money

so this is prolly not as funny without watching but i was watching NFL networks mock draft last night where mayock was the moderator and they had nfln analysists picking all the players. they went around the table and an analyst picked a player for the next team in the order. so, each person picked one player and they moved on.

heres the list of analysts:

mike mayock
charles davis
brian billick
steve mariucci
rich eisen
michael irvin
dave damasheck
daniel jarameah

and last and totally least... melissa stark

now, we got some pretty great insight from ex-coaches and players like brian billick and steve mariucci. but poor melissa stark was way in over her head. with statments like "I didnt expect this situation" when picking for the eagles at #4 and the expected players still on the board, "since he was your #2 ranked player mike," and "the dolphins lost a cb named sean smith so well take xavier rhodes as the first CB off the board". this is when the other analysts turned from helpful to downright FRYING her hahahaha.

its all right here, its a really good watch and watching the only chick in the room with absolutely no football knowledge is hysterical.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/media-mock-drafts#pick=1

MFisH · Negus

why the hell would a big time network like the NFL network put one of their female host as an anaylsit? don't they realize they can only read off the prompter?

MFisH · Negus

my overview of twitter today:

REPORT: Team X looking to trade down

REPORT: Team X might be looking to trade up

REPORT: Team X might pick if they cannot trade.

is it thursday night yet?

6ixty · Young Money

not sure how i feel about that prediction im about 50/50 at this point. but at least im wearing a tasty hat today!

my wish list:

1. Eifert/J Jones - I really cant decide between these two. if they get either i will be happy as i can be at 17 unless someone falls (mingo!).
2. ken vaccaro
3. alec ogletree
4. arthur brown
5. Star loututui
6. one of the WRs

my bigger wish is to get one of if not two of the following RBS
1. jonathan franklin UCLA
2. Lavon bell MSU
3. christine michael TA&M

6ixty · Young Money

honestly id be pretty surprised if JJ is still there when the steelers pick. will be a nice surprise

Jpoo · Guru

Mock Draft, Final.

1) Kansas City Chiefs – Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2)Jacksonville Jaguars - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
3)Oakland Raiders -Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida (THIS PICK WILL BE TRADED)
4)Philthadelphia Eagles -Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
5)Detroit Lions – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
6)Cleveland Browns- DeMarcus Milliner , CB, Alabama
7)Arizona Cardinals - Chance Warmack,G,Alabama
8)Buffalo Bills – Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
9)New York Jets - Ezekial Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
10)Tennessee Titans – Jonathan Cooper, G, NC
11)San Diego Chargers - D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
12)Miami Dolphins - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
13) New York Jets – Tavon Austin, WR, West Virgina
14) Carolina Panthers – Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
15)New Orleans Saints - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
16)St.Louis Rams – Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
17)Pittsburgh Steelers – Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
18)Dallas Cowboys –Sylvester Williams, DT, NC
19) New York Giants – Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
20)Chicago Bears – Manti T’eo, LB, Notre Dame
21)Cincinatti Bengals – Eric Reid, S, LSU
22)St.Louis Rams – Alec Ogeltree, LB, Georgia
23)Minnesota Vikings – Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
24)Indianapolis Colts – DJ Hayden, CB, Houston
25)Minnesota Vikings - Kevin Minter, LB, LSU
26)Green Bay Packers - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
27)Houston Texans – Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
28)Denver Broncos – Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
29)New England Patriots – Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU
30)Atlanta Falcons – Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
31)San Francisco 49ers – Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
32)Baltimore Ravens – Matt Elam, S, Florida

-- Edited by Jpoo on Thursday 25th of April 2013 07:27:27 PM

MFisH · Negus

big day today bros, the one we have been waiting for for months and this is the best day of football action until september. im very excited to see the eagles trade down or draft some linemen and pretend i know all about him. this is the most unpredictable draft in years and after seeing mayocks mock yesterday im not even sure who pick #1 is going to be. im also exicted for one of u 2 to eat your hats. please remember both of you said you would eat your hat if a certain thing occured and they were:

josh: giants draft a TE in round 1

nick: if marcus lattimore goes in the 3rd rounder or earlier.

hope you guys both picked out a good and tasty one!

MFisH · Negus

i would be thrilled if i were u n the steelers got jarvis jones. he was a beast in college and the way the steelers use to transform LB's in pro bowlers i think he would be a monster there. i dont know what im missing but he should be a top 10 pick and hes gonna be good. with old dick L running the d for at least a few more years thats a perfect match for him.

im also interested to see where these non 1st rounders go:

-honey badger

-lattimore

-kenjon barner

-barrett jones (eagles have his old Oline coach and he was an All American at like 3 positions in college)

Jpoo · Guru

Final top 5 wish list:

1)DJ Fluker (not gonna happen he'll be long gone)
2)Desmond Trufant
3)Tank Carradine
4)Kenny Vaccaro
5)Datone Jones

I have no fear of the Giants taking a TE whatsoever.

Jpoo · Guru

According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, West Virginia WR Tavon Austin is the No. 1 overall player on the Bills' draft board.

That screams, PLEASE TRADE UP AND TAKE OUR PICK, PLEASEEEEEE

MFisH · Negus

theres gonna be so many surprises tonight. this day is draggginngg already i cant wait.

MFisH · Negus

looks like every mock draft has fisher going #1 now. what the hell is going on here?

6ixty · Young Money

when mike mayock talks people listen

6ixty · Young Money

The most important non-game gameday in sports is upon us. The eyes of the NFL will be on Radio City Music Hall tomorrow night as the annual educated-guessing game known as the draft takes place. And continuing in the proud tradition of Jets fans getting wasted and lustily booing selections, we’re presenting you with this drinking game. Just follow along and you’ll be feeling as weird as Brady Quinn in a green room.

One drink for any:

Use of the word “upside”
Use of the word “potential”
Time a commentator suggests picking for value not need
Non-skilled position player drafted – you’re going to get a nice early buzz
Comparison of a drafted player to a player already in the league
Trade
Mention of last year’s quarterback class
Time a team makes a pick in under three minutes

Two drinks for any:

Reference to a player’s performance at the combine
Audible cry from a drunk in the balcony
Time character issues are mentioned
Non-FBS is player drafted
SEC player taken in the 1st round
Commercial break
Skill position player taken
Time a media member tweets the pick before it’s announced

Three drinks for any:

Mention of a player’s “closing speed”
Discussing of a quarterback’s offensive system
Street slang from Stuart Scott
Suit that isn’t black, brown or blue
You recognize a player selected after the fifth round

Four drinks for any:

Claim that a player is a “coach on the field”
Soon-to-be dumped WAG at draftee’s side
Time an offensive or defensive end is referred to as a “bookend”
Time a team does not get their pick in on time

Five drinks for any:

Time Mel Kiper’s hair is out of place
Ivy League player selected

MFisH · Negus

looks like im calling out of work 2mrw!

6ixty · Young Money

2 drinks for •Time a media member tweets the pick before it’s announced is enough to get you wasted by itself

MFisH · Negus

6ixty wrote:
2 drinks for •Time a media member tweets the pick before it’s announced is enough to get you wasted by itself

that would be 64 drinks alone because it happens every single time

MFisH · Negus

i like the mock. i personally think eagles are going tackle but i have no idea. surprising you think geno falls out of the 1st round, i think he goes top 10

Jpoo · Guru

I really wouldnt be surprised, there's a lot more mystery this year as opposed to last year. Gonna be sweeeeet.

Jpoo · Guru

Remember if you have any friends eligible for the draft..Be sure to call them all weekend from a blocked or unknown number during the draft
— Tony Moeaki (@TonyMoeaki81) April 25, 2013

MFisH · Negus

ya that was f'ed up. and the guy it happened to, mo sanu, is from my hometown and a friend of my brothers. bunch of scum bag dirty jerz kids probably!

6ixty · Young Money

im outta here. hittin hooters for some pre draft beers and wings then to steves mancave for the festivities.

enjoy the draft everyone cant wait to talk about it tomorrow!!