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6ixty · Young Money

RE: NFL TALK (2013)

MFisH · Negus

what did they tender him at?

6ixty · Young Money

original round.

MFisH · Negus

never heard of that. are u sure u don't mean they just don't receive anything but get the right to match it?

6ixty · Young Money

original round tender. means you get the pick in the round he was drafted in. in emans case its a 3rd rounder. worth 1.3 mill

the one ur thinking of is right of first refusal.

6ixty · Young Money

they also placed it on dwyer

MFisH · Negus

cant afford 1.3 mil for eman? nick ur gonna need to help them out and donate some of your rent free money uve been saving up for the past year and pay the man!

MFisH · Negus

remind me again how the many of the steelers 2008 draft class is making an impact for them?

sometimes its not a good thing to get an unproven mid round draft pick over ur current #2 wr esp for 1.3mil

6ixty · Young Money

ur still not understanding...

no one said i would rather have the 3rd rounder

6ixty · Young Money

6ixty wrote:
not Eman!

Jason La Canfora‏@JasonLaCanfora
Can confirm ESPN report that Steelers restricted free agent WR Emmanuel Sanders visiting the Pats. No offer sheet yet. PIT cap hamstrung

hence my original post.

MFisH · Negus

i'm pretty sure you are the one who is not understanding. the pats can offer him any contract they want. so if they want to offer him a 3 year 12 mil dollar deal, the steelers can either match that or not. if they dont and cant afford it then they get a 3rd rounder in return.

the only time the 1.3 contract comes into play is if no other team offers him a deal, eman can sign with the steelers for 1 year at 1.3mil.

6ixty · Young Money

NO **** SHIRLOCK

6ixty · Young Money

6ixty wrote:
are you drunk? they have the tender on him now for 1.3 mill. if the pats want to give up a 3rd rounder they can offer whatever they want and the steelers would have to match or get a 3rd rounder in return.

you dont understand how RFA works? oh yea i forget the iggles only sign over priced UFAs!

what about that doesnt say exactly what you posted? I dont want the pats to make him an offer because it will be bigger than the 1.3 they get him for if he doesnt sign with the pats and i would rather have eman than a 3rd round pick.

MFisH · Negus

i guess my confusion was y did u ask if i was drunk? im pretty sure were on the same page here.

6ixty · Young Money

i hate FA

Jpoo · Guru

Top 50 remaining free agents:

1. Elvis Dumervil/ DE

2.Andre Smith/ RT

3.Brent Grimes/ CB

4.John Abraham/DE

5.Sebastian Vollmer/ RT

6.Osi Umenyiora/DE

7.Antoine Winfield/CB

8.Ed Reed/S

9.Dwight Freeney/DE

10. James Harrison/ OLBDE

11.Kerry Rhodes/ S

12. Victor Butler/OLB

13Karlos Dansby/ ILB

14. Richard Seymour/ DT

15.Brandon Moore/G

16.Eric Winston/RT

17.Mike Jenkins/CB

18.Israel Idonije/DE

19.Brandon Lloyd/WR

20.Nnamdi Asomugha/CB

21.DeAngelo Hall/CB

22.Daryl Smith/LB

23. Julian Edelman/WR

24.Ahmad Bradshaw/RB

25.Fred Davis/TE

26.Darrius Heyward-Bey/WR

27.Bryant McKinnie/ LT

28.Qunitin Mikell/S

29.Charles Woodson/ SCB

30.Michael Huff/S

31.Ronde Barber/FS

32.Bernard Pollard/S

33.Kevin Kolb/QB

34.EJ Biggers/CB

35.Sione Pouha/ NT

36.Brad Jones/LB

37.Antwan Barnes/LB

38.Shaun Phillips/OLB

39.Felix Jones/RB

40.Ryan Harris/RT

41.Josh Cribbs/ KRWR

42.Justin Durant/LB

43.Domenik Hixon/WR

44.Pacman Jones/CB

45. Tracy Porter/CB

46. Sen'Derrick Marks/DT

47.Lance Louis/G

48.Vance Walker/ DT

49.Brian Urlacher/LB

50.Ryan Fitzpatrick/QB

still a lot of big names left to be signed

6ixty · Young Money

who would have thought we would see ed reed, james harrison, osi umenyora, brian urlacher, john abraham and dwight freeney sitting on the FA market at the same time with no interest? father time is a biotch

MFisH · Negus

what ever happened with the colts and a wr?

6ixty · Young Money

i dunno but if the bucs are giving away legarrette blount im all over that!

Jpoo · Guru

You do seem to have a hard on for Blount

6ixty · Young Money

haha anyone who make that run against the packers last year is good in my book. plus he obviously hates losing....

MFisH · Negus

http://www.spotrac.com/career-earnings/nfl/active/philadelphia-eagles/

career earnings for every player in the NFL

MFisH · Negus

hahaha wow! the football editors at espn have to be sitting around and just going, what the hell can we make up today that will get clicks? hmmm POWER RANKINGS. anyone above 12 years old who enjoys these or takes them serious is an idiot

-- Edited by MFisH on Tuesday 19th of March 2013 07:58:35 PM

6ixty · Young Money

march power rankings!!

RANK	TEAM/RECORD	COMMENTS
1	Seahawks 11-5	High-risk, high-reward move for Percy Harvin got voters' attention. (Sando)
2	49ers 11-4-1	Two-time defending NFC West champs can restock with 14 draft choices. (Sando)
3	Broncos 13-3	The Elvis Dumervil debacle aside, the Broncos are winning free agency and giving Peyton Manning all he needs to succeed. (Fox)
4	Falcons 13-3	Steven Jackson joins Tony Gonzalez in quest to cap great career with a championship. (Sando)
5	Patriots 12-4	Danny Amendola for Wes Welker is an upgrade as long as the former Rams slot receiver can stay healthy. (Hensley)
6	Packers 11-5	They were prepared to lose Greg Jennings and can replace him as long as Aaron Rodgers is still in his prime. (Graziano)
7	Texans 12-4	Even though the Texans lost pass-rushers Mario Williams and Connor Barwin in the past two years, they still have enough rush thanks to J.J. Watt. (Clayton)
8	Ravens 10-6	The dismantling of the Super Bowl champs has been quick and swift. Six starters are already gone. (Hensley)
9	Colts 11-5	The Colts picked up five starters on defense in free agency and are looking for a few small parts for their offense. (Clayton)
10	Bengals 10-6	The Bengals haven't been aggressive in using that salary-cap room, but they've made it a priority to keep their own free agents. (Hensley)
11	Bears 10-6	They finally addressed the offensive line. Opinions abound with regard to how well they actually fixed it. (Graziano)
12	Saints 7-9	Saints will presumably pick up where they left off in 2011, as a good team. (Sando)
13	Redskins 10-6	No cap room to rebuild the defense, and no guarantee RG III and his knee will be ready for Week 1. (Graziano)
14	Giants 9-7	No eye-popping pickups, but no crushing losses either. No reason to think they can't go 9-7 again. (Graziano)
15	Rams 7-8-1	Rams have flexibility with two first-round picks after adding Jake Long. (Sando)
16	Steelers 8-8	Backups need to step up after the Steelers parted ways with Mike Wallace, James Harrison, Keenan Lewis, Rashard Mendenhall and Casey Hampton. (Hensley)
17	Vikings 10-6	Doubt they could have found a better way to replace Percy Harvin than by swiping Greg Jennings from a division rival. (Graziano)
18	Cowboys 8-8	The switch to a 4-3 scheme could help Sean Lee and Jay Ratliff thrive. But it needs safety support. (Graziano)
19	Dolphins 7-9	Miami spent $44 million in guaranteed money on Mike Wallace and Dannell Ellerbe. Let's see how much this investment pays off. (Hensley)
20	Panthers 7-9	Cam Newton finished strong last season, an encouraging sign for the Panthers. (Sando)
21	Buccaneers 7-9	Buccaneers seem just fine playing along with Darrelle Revis trade speculation. (Sando)
22	Lions 4-12	Busy, busy. Reggie Bush could give them what Jahvid Best's concussions never allowed him to. (Graziano)
23	Chargers 7-9	The Chargers have a new regime. Can new coach Mike McCoy get the most out of Philip Rivers? (Fox)
24	Chiefs 2-14	New coach. New general manager. New quarterback. New hope. That all should be worth six more wins. (Fox)
25	Browns 5-11	The Browns have spent a lot on defense by adding Paul Kruger and Desmond Bryant. Not sure how that improves the 24th-ranked scoring offense. (Hensley)
26	Eagles 4-12	Chip Kelly is working on rebuilding the defense, starting with the back end. Still a question mark at QB. (Graziano)
27	Titans 6-10	The Titans needed to be aggressive in free agency. Mike Munchak has to win or else. (Clayton)
28	Bills 6-10	New coach and now a new quarterback. The Ryan Fitzpatrick era is over after a disappointing 20 victories over four seasons. (Hensley)
29	Cardinals 5-11	Adding Drew Stanton made sense, but won't generate buzz around the Cards. (Sando)
30	Raiders 4-12	The Raiders still need to answer the most important question in football: What are they doing at quarterback? (Fox)
31	Jets 6-10	Welcome to the Rex-odus. Seven of the 22 starters from last year's 6-10 team are gone. (Hensley)
32	Jaguars 2-14	The Jags are moving slowly in free agency, but it still comes down to quarterback play to make them better. (Clayton)

6ixty · Young Money

somones bitter their team is bottom-7

MFisH · Negus

ha, right. im pretty sure eagles were top 5 in marchs power ranking last year or the year before

MFisH · Negus

RANK	TEAM/RECORD	COMMENTS
1	Giants 9-7	The Giants have lost significant pieces from their Super Bowl team and won only nine regular-season games in 2011, but they are the defending champs. They will be the team to beat. (Fox)
2	Patriots 13-3	Adding deep-threat receiver Brandon Lloyd could give the Patriots the NFL's most versatile passing attack. (Walker)
3	Packers 15-1	Yet another quiet offseason for Ted Thompson as the Pack await help in the draft. (Clayton)
4	49ers 13-3	All 11 defensive starters return from last season, with Aldon Smith expected to crack the lineup after 14-sack rookie season. (Sando)
5	Ravens 12-4	QB Joe Flacco's strong finish in the playoffs gives the Ravens hope they can get over the championship hump. (Walker)
6	Texans 10-6	Have lost a great deal: Mario Williams, Eric Winston, DeMeco Ryans and Mike Brisiel. (Kuharsky)
7	Lions 10-6	The Lions have spent their free-agency period re-signing key free agents. (Clayton)
8	Broncos 8-8	If healthy, Peyton Manning should lift all of the Broncos' boats. We've already got them as tops in the division and they'll still be adding pieces around him. (Kuharsky)
9	Steelers 12-4	The salary cap crashed hard on the Steelers. But you can never count out this consistent franchise. (Walker)
10	Bears 8-8	The Jay Cutler-Brandon Marshall combo will be hard for defenses to stop. (Clayton)
11	Saints 13-3	Saints fell nine spots in rankings from last season, tied with Oakland for the biggest drop of any team. (Sando)
12	Eagles 8-8	The Eagles finally have a quality middle linebacker in DeMeco Ryans, whom they stole from Houston. And they have a happy DeSean Jackson. (Fox)
13	Falcons 10-6	Falcons have to like their chances with the Saints reeling from sanctions levied in the bounty scandal. (Sando)
14	Cowboys 8-8	The Cowboys have filled some holes through free agency, but they have more work to do. Atop the list: finding another pass-rusher. (Fox)
15	Chargers 8-8	They did a nice job recovering from Vincent Jackson's departure. But the head coach is still the same and until Norv Turner breaks through with the Chargers, a lot of people are going to presume he cannot. (Kuharsky)
16	Titans 9-7	Added one veteran to both lines, but still need more help. (Kuharsky)
17	Chiefs 7-9	Getting healthy will make a big difference for the Chiefs, who are under new leadership with Romeo Crennel. But is that enough to make up ground in the AFC West? (Kuharsky)
18	Panthers 6-10	Can Cam Newton shatter expectations for a second season in a row? (Sando)
19	Bengals 9-7	The Bengals haven't had back-to-back winning seasons in 30 years. But young guns Andy Dalton and A.J. Green aim to end the streak. (Walker)
20	Jets 8-8	Tim Tebow-mania invades the Big Apple. But will Tebow help the Jets win games or cause a distraction? (Walker)
21	Cardinals 8-8	Cardinals still hoping to win their bet on Kevin Kolb, but John Skelton will compete for the starting job. (Sando)
22	Seahawks 7-9	Matt Flynn's acquisition in free agency gives the Seahawks fresh hope at quarterback for the first time in years. (Sando)
23	Bills 6-10	The Bills are not done making improvements, but DE Mario Williams was a huge step in the right direction. (Walker)
24	Buccaneers 4-12	Buccaneers jumped five spots in our rankings from last season after moving aggressively in free agency. (Sando)
25	Redskins 5-11	By trading for the No. 2 pick in the draft, the Redskins and Mike Shanahan will finally have a legitimate quarterback around which to build. (Fox)
26	Raiders 8-8	A new GM and a new coach are overseeing a roster that's been dented by a lot of salary-cap cuts. Carson Palmer's a question mark as they try to get it together. (Kuharsky)
27	Jaguars 5-11	The defense is near championship caliber. The offense is an entirely different story. (Kuharsky)
28	Dolphins 6-10	This once-promising team has been gutted by the front office. (Walker)
29	Rams 2-14	Jeff Fisher, Dave McGinnis and Chuck Cecil fill the void left by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' indefinite suspension. (Sando)
30	Browns 4-12	The Browns can't run, throw or catch on offense. Other than that, they're fine. (Walker)
31	Vikings 3-13	The Vikings officially are in rebuilding mode. (Clayton)
32	Colts 2-14	Indianapolis could draft first again in 2013. Matt Barkley could bring a nice trade package. (Kuharsky)

Jpoo · Guru

THey literally stated for the Redskins... "Well the defense will still kinda blows and RG3 might not even play... so lets rank them ahead of the Giants/Steelers/Cowboys for no apparent reason."

6ixty · Young Money

blasphamy

MFisH · Negus

mark fischer march power rankings:

1. broncos

2. 49ers

3. pats

4. packers

5. falcons

6. seattle

Jpoo · Guru

John Mara on the Redskins cap violation penalties....

“That was an issue that was negotiated between the league office and the players’ association,” Mara said Tuesday evening after the league’s annual meetings adjourned for the day. “I was not present in any of those sessions, nor did I have anything to do with it. But if they want to continue to make me the villain, so be it.”

Jpoo · Guru

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/26/report-steelers-tell-james-harrison-theyre-not-interested/

where's he gonna go?

6ixty · Young Money

well considering he crawled back to the steelers with his tail between his legs its not looking good for him. he was due 6 mill, steelers offered him a 30% paycut which equals about 4 mill. no way hes getting that anywhere else. like i said- harrison, urlacher, freeney, abraham, woodson, osi its crazy how lilttle ppl want to pay vets.

with the strapped cap coaches are realizing young talent is cheaper and sometimes better. its only gonna get worse too and the caps not going up much in the near future.

Jpoo · Guru

Urlacher is way over the hill, I wouldn't give him ****.

Freeney has one or two years left in him. I wouldn't sign him for any longer than that.

Abraham is going to fall apart any day, he's just so old.

Harrison is a mental case

Woodson should get a job, I can't believe no ones signed him yet. He's a very solid cover safety now.

Osi is on the wrong side of thirty, awful against the run, and is known for wanting too much money.

There's problems on both the teams and players side. Some of the teams need to break open the check book, and some players need to realize where they're at in their careers.

MFisH · Negus

teams are finally smartening up and not paying these older guys big money because older guys tend to get hurt and teams can just draft rookies or sign guy who were on the practice squad who as 90% as good but for half the money. most of these guys had no choice either because they got cut or because their contract was up, but someone like harrison is an idiot and really over valued his market value.

with a lot of these veterans we are at the point where teams are going to wait until the draft to fill needs and players/agents are gonna wait to see what teams didnt draft a player at their postion and still have a need before signing a contract. it makes no sense to sign a deal now a month before the draft when they can wait it out and maybe get a decent 1 year contract with a team who didnt get the guy they wanted in the draft.

Jpoo · Guru

Good point. Didn't even think of it. Makes a lot of sense that they'll wait till after the draft at this point and use those guys to just plug holes.

Jpoo · Guru

Not much going on, but I found out the Giants will be wearing alternate/throwback jersey's this year.... except it's only that they'll be wearing white pants instead of grey... wooooooo! But it got me thinking... what are my favorite alternate jersey's (in all of sports)... here's my top 5

5) San Diego Powder Blues

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4)Philly Green

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3)Denver Nugget Rainnboowwssss

2)1986 Mets

1) Dallas Cowboys Thanksgiving Jerseys

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And my most hated 5 for good measure as well....

5)The fat kids basketball jersey....

4)The Pittsburgh Bumblebees

3)Seattle Seahawk Vomit.

2)Tampa Bay Creamcicles

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1) The most hated of all... THE RED JERSEY

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MFisH · Negus

are the giants using them the whole season or just 1 game?

also, is it these:

Jpoo · Guru

"A few select games when they're wearing the blue tops" Something like those yeah.

MFisH · Negus

looks like stillers about to sign bradshaw...

6ixty · Young Money

yessssssir!!

6ixty · Young Money

1gpsb6.Em.56

god thats awful

MFisH · Negus

why i'll never truley be scared of the cowboys: they have one of the worst gm's in football and this story confirms it:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/29/report-romo-cant-be-tagged-in-2014/

haha, romo is gonna get 5 mil more than hes worth just cuz he has all the leverage now

MFisH · Negus

mike patterson visting the giants. first jenkins and now pat? wtf r the giants trying to do here?

Jpoo · Guru

DT is probably one of their weakest points. I'll take all the help we can get.

6ixty · Young Money

nnamdi to the 9ers. those greedy nfc westerners

MFisH · Negus

i wouldnt be surprised at all if nnamdi did well with them. he finally has some coaches who know what to do with him and how to use him (press man to man). it just makes no sense for a player to go from the 2nd best player at his position to a bum in 1-2 years without injury.

MFisH · Negus

nick, your boy better help my boy out here:

Eagles defensive end Brandon Graham hasn’t necessarily been told he’s playing outside linebacker, but he’s certainly preparing that way.

Graham said, via Zach Berman of the Philadelphia Inquirer, that he hadn’t been told what position he’d play in the Eagles’ new 3-4 system.

But it’s easy to see where he’s leaning. He’s working to get from 270 pound down to 260, and he’s been working with Steelers outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley on his technique

6ixty · Young Money

hopefully he can teach woodley some cardio activity while theyre at it.

MFisH · Negus

PFT is thinking about dumping the comments section. nick, you’re a major player in the pft commenters circle, what are your feelings about this? how else are you going to anonymously post inappropriate football jokes and comments?