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tate to lions. hate him but thats a good pickup

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they've been through an absurd number of garbage #2 WR's, Tate's a good fit as a possession receiver here. It also frees the Lions up from having to go WR in the 1st round and instead can work on their Secondary/Offensive line.

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yeah, good news for Evans to the steelers, bad for Gilbert/Dennard

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also, weeden got cut LMAO

 

he could be a good #2 and is the same age as most veteran clip board holders on the down side of their career



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I can't see Evans getting passed the Giants personally...

It's either gonna be Ebron, OL, Gilbert, Dennard, or Evans

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what happened to seattle getting a home town discount?  funny how the guy who said he wouldnt give a discount to (bennett) stayed, and the one who said he would left.  i guess they're counting on percy playing more than 1 game this entire season.

anway, where does everyone think revis ends up?

 



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UH OH, not everyone likes the stillers big move yesterday:

bill barnwell (grantline)

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The Five Most Questionable Signings of Day 1

5. Pittsburgh gives S Mike Mitchell a five-year, $25 million deal: There’s so much weird in that sentence. The Steelers almost never enter into free agency, and when they do, they don’t often screw up. I still can’t make heads or tails of this signing. A year ago, Mitchell entered the market after four years in Oakland and barely found a contract, getting a one-year deal for $1 million from the Panthers to play special teams and serve as a backup safety. He eventually found his way into the starting lineup and impressed as a run-thumping safety, but it was also behind a dominant front seven, which made his life a lot easier.

Now, after 13 starts, the Steelers suddenly think he’s worth $5 million per year? That would be questionable on its own, but it’s even weirder considering Pittsburgh’s defense. Mitchell’s strength is using his speed to attack the line of scrimmage and fill against the run. His fellow starting safety in Pittsburgh is Troy Polamalu, a rover who has lost several steps in coverage and whose best remaining strength is … using his instincts to attack the line of scrimmage and fill against the run. I’d wonder if Mitchell was a replacement for Polamalu, but the cap-strapped Steelers just gave their long-serving safety a two-year contract extension. This could work — Dick LeBeau happens to know a lot about safeties — but it certainly seems like a risky venture on its face.

 



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and even worse news for the giants...

1. The Giants do (almost) everything wrong: Sigh. Let me get the good news out of the way: The Giants will reportedly sign Geoff Schwartz away from Kansas City, and he should be a much-needed boost to the interior of their offensive line, either directly by suiting up at guard or by playing tackle and pushing Will Beatty or Justin Pugh inside. Re-signing Trumaine McBride should leave the Giants with a perfectly decent third or fourth cornerback. No problems there.7

Elsewhere, though, the Giants made decisions that really bring their scouting department into question. They signed a number of players they weren’t interested in for free 12 months ago to deals with real money involved. Take pass-rusher O’Brien Schofield. The Cardinals waived Schofield in July, which would have allowed the Giants to acquire him for $900,000. They passed, and the Seahawks claimed Schofield instead. He proceeded to play 144 defensive snaps as a backup end and linebacker, recording one sack and eight tackles amid a stacked front seven. Those snaps were enough, apparently, for the Giants to offer Schofield a two-year, $8 million deal on the opening day of free agency. If Schofield was really worth $4 million per year, why didn’t the Giants grab him for less than a million bucks when they had the opportunity in July? Could they really have been swayed that much by what he did in 144 snaps on the league’s best defense?

Make one move like that and it’s a scouting quirk. Make a handful and it’s a problem. The Giants also signed running back Rashad Jennings away from the Raiders on Tuesday. Terms aren’t yet disclosed, but Jennings noted that the Giants outbid the Raiders, who signed Jennings for $630,000 in the middle of April last year. Jennings was quietly impressive last year, but that came after four middling seasons with the Jaguars. Peyton Hillis was re-signed on a two-year deal for $1.8 million, because God knows you can’t find another running back who can average 3.4 yards per carry in the market for the league minimum or win a Super Bowl without Hillis’s presence in the locker room.

Part of being a smart organization is recognizing where your talent comes from and how those talent sources build your roster. Given that the Giants didn’t think most of these guys were worth signing when they were available for a fraction of what they just paid, what does it say about New York’s talent evaluation skills when it’s suddenly interested in them now? Well-run teams realize there’s probably another Rashad Jennings or O’Brien Schofield waiting in the market for the minimum and go after them as opposed to chasing a career year or a few good snaps on tape. It’s entirely possible these moves could all work out, but the process that’s going into them reveals a huge lapse in logic for Jerry Reese and his scouting department.

 



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Schofield signing no longer happening

Rashad proved to be a capable running back on a **** bag team. He pass blocks and can catch. 3.5 per year w/ 4m guaranteed, no big deal if it doesn't work out. Freaking Toby Gerhart managed to get 3.5mpy, I'm super happy w/ Rashad.

Hillis is guaranteed a whopping 100,000K he's a camp body and one that the franchise is familiar with at least.

Whoever that writer is obvi has an issue w/ the giants and is very butt hurt

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While giving up a 5th for sproles isn't the end of the world, I'm not sure I'd want him. Especially with Shady and Chris Polk on the roster. Just don't see a place for him, though I'm sure Chip will find a place for him. Low risk high reward deal especially being he's a free agent at the end of the year. My only thought his he's a little dude who has an injury history, but once again not a lot of risk here

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love the move.  sproles isn't gonna take carries away from mccoy or even polk, he is going to be used like de'anthony thomas was in chips last 2 years at oregon as more a wr who starts in the backfield and gets a ton of catches.  in 2011 he had 46 catches while lemichael james was the feature back and in 2012 he had 45 catches while barner was the feature back.  trust me sproles and mccoy are gonna play a lot at the same time. he is also is a legit punt returner something the eagles dont have unless they want to risk putting their #1 wr out there which chip doesnt like to do. for a 5th round pick, ill def take it and see how it works out for a year.

 



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also eagles had an extra 5th round pick that they got for trading that sopoaga dude to the pats last year who didnt even make it to the end of the year.  steal



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Giants reportedly going after Ted Ginn, yes please!

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what ever happened to jacoby?  giants didnt wanna pay to get him?



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Dude got 14 mil over 4 yrs thats absurd for a WR3 or 4/KR

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Who is also 30 years old

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any chance nicks comes back?  whos looking at him?



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Zero, Eli thinks he's a dick, and the front office thinks he's a baby about his injuries and not a team player.

Rumors say he's linked to the Panthers for about 4.5mil per year, yet to be seen though.

Pats are also considered a dark horse for his services.



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Tuck a Raider 2yr 11 mil... Too rich for my blood bye bye thanks for 2 rings.

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Jpoo wrote:

Dude got 14 mil over 4 yrs thats absurd for a WR3 or 4/KR


 ravens are putting out a story titled "why jacoby jones took LESS money to remain a raven"

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glad we didn't sign him then, that'd be dumb

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after last nights and this mornings reporting of brandon browner signing with the pats then his agent ripping it, then reports of him cancelling his visit with the skins, then its back on (and so on and so on), ive noticed how reporting is getting so sloppy latley.  ian rapport is clearly the #2 insider in the game right now, but you can tell hes trying to beat adam on any report that it is getting out of hand.  i also noticed this the other day, but where the hell is mort?  he hasnt tweeted anything in 3 days and letting his partner in crime adam just go out and dominate.  also i heard jay glazer is out with a back (al michaels voice), meaning the only 3 national reporters breaking news this week has been adam and then a steep drop of off ian and jason la conforna throwing **** on the wall and hoping it sticks. its crazy how i literally do not believe a report unless i see adams name attached to it haha  



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Glazer I heard double pneumonia and in the hospital.

Reporting blows it's I'll report anything and if it's right then I'm awesome, if nothing comes of it whatsoever then it's my sources giving me faulty info.

Unless I hear it from Schefter I won't believe it.

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looking back i only read like the first 2 lines of your post, glad we're on the same page.

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the big question is where is mort?

and does peter king never break player news?  seems like he is more the type of guy to break NFL news like policy changes and things like that



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LOVING the WT3 signing, now if they can get DRC....

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weeden to dallas LOL. is he even younger than orton? would much rather have kyle

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Weeden es poopy.

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DRC to gmen. talk about CB overhall

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HELL YEAH

Amukamura /DRC /Walter Thurmond III

Will Hill /Antrel Rolle /Stevie Brown

Aside from Seattle whats better?

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keenan lewis, jaryus byrd, ken vaccarro is a pretty good 3some but not as deep. def revamped the secondary lets see if the offense can do their part

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Jpoo wrote:

HELL YEAH

Amukamura /DRC /Walter Thurmond III

Will Hill /Antrel Rolle /Stevie Brown

Aside from Seattle whats better?


 i hope your joking. DRC is overrated, prince isnt anything special and seattle was fine without thurmond.

this is very tough to judge but ill take any of these secondaries over the giants and here is how i would rank them:

1. seattle (obvious)

2. arizona (peterson is the best corner in the league IMO and matheiu is gonna be one of the best FS in the league soon.  bell is also a solid player)

3. pats (might have the best pair of corners right now)

4. saints (probably the 2nd best pair of safteys in the league and kennan lewis just came over a very good year).

5. broncos (if harris can come back from the torn acl this might be higher but for now ill put them here) 



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Oh please, DRC was a top 5 corner last year. Its your idiot DC's fault for taking two awesome man coverage guys and forcing them to play zone for some odd reason.

Thurmond has done nothing but perform. seattle needs to make big decisions in regards to salary allocation for expiring contracts. they couldn't afford to keep him.

Amukamura had an awesome season last year, no one wants to acknowledge that the giants finished as a top 10 defense.

You also failed to mention how Rolle/Hill were arguably the best Safety tandem in the league last year, and they get Stevie Brown back. 

You don't know what you're talking about.



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drc was a top 5 corner last year?  cliff harris was better on his own team.  weird that 4 other corners (revis, talib, verneer and vonte) all got paid before he did.

i watched him for 2 years, im not gonna say he sucked like nnamdi did but he is nothing special. he's not someone you can put on a #1 wr and have him shut him down, and if you like your corners to be able to make a tackle DRC is not your man.  giants prolly have the best secondary in the NFC east (nothing to brag about but still) however def not top 5.



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He played nearly strict Zone in Philly, he moved to denver played nearly strictly man and all the sudden

(As per PFF) He severely outplayed his one year deal with the Broncos and ranked as our fifth-highest graded cornerback in 2013. His 44.1% catch rate allowed ranked second in the league. He also ranked third in our signature stat, coverage snaps per reception, with a 15.7 mark, as he only trailed Richard Sherman and Darrelle Revis.

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please, i watched the guy for 2 years play on the WORST defense the eagles had in its history and you read a few paragraphs on PFF about stats that sound good but lets be honest no one is exactly sure how it works.  yes, juan castillo was a big reason why he probably struggled with philly, but from what i saw the guy was inconsistent, doesnt tackle and even a weird dude (wore batman outfits to practice, wears kids backpacks, even talking about retiring a few months ago) 2 teams have given up on him in 3 years (AZ, philly) and the 3rd (denver) went out and paid someone else at his postion and you want me to believe he is a top tier corner of all a sudden?  no chance, not after 1 decent year.  if he signed with the jets instead of nyg we wouldnt even be having this convo, guess we'll see how he performs with the giants, not sure if they run more man to man press or zone but he's got a chance to shut down djax n maclin twice this year so if he shuts either of them down i'll be the first to admit i was wrong about him.  

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You questioned his talent, which can't be questioned, when playing the dude is awesome

His commitment can definitely be questioned and I won't doubt that.

Here's the thing he's got guys like Trel and Beason two consummate professionals. Not to mention Mr. Law-and-Order Tommy C. I think he'll be fine. Also Rolle considers him a little brother from their time together on the Cards, I'm not worried about motivation/weirdness.

Denver offered the same contract that they offered Talib.

And FINALLY. Whats wrong with Batman costumes yo?

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Super Bowl Odds as of yesterday, taking 1st week of FA into account. Looks like Vegas really liked the eagles moves of adding a few saints (6th best odds overall). steelers made no movement (33-1 and 8th in the AFC) and vegas didnt like giants moves much dropping them from 33-1 to 40-1 (12th out of 16th in NFC). A little surprised by the texans, going from the #1 overall pick to having the 5th best odds in the AFC. And finally, as we discussed last week seattle is still the overall favorites with broncos being the afc west and even afc favs (surprise!), however, my prediction is by the beggining of the year broncos go to #1 overall.



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Lol @ the Giants and Cowboys having the same odds... the Cowboys don't have a D line outside of Melton.

Seriously...

DE1? - DT2? - Henry Melton - DE2?

WHO are the other guys?

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i actually had to go on their depth chart and look up their front 7.  other than melton and carter and lee i never even heard of any of the other guys as their projected starters.  you would think the draft is going to focus on that (however with jerry he might go WR again) and i'm loving this.  still don't understand why they cut ware and pft reported today at worst they should have traded him for something



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In Jerry World there are no rules/reasoning.

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cards secondary just got even better

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off topic, but you guys fill out the warren buffet billion dollar bracket?

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no but i had OSU winning today so my billion $$ bracket was busted game #1 haha



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I had Drayton for some reason.

Have Pitt, and Wisconsin.

looking good, LETS GO CINCI!

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As per Fish's Walter Thurmond III is JAG

Former NFL personnel director Louis Riddick calls new Giants CB Walter Thurmond III "special."
The Giants were able to steal Thurmond on a one-year, $3 million contract thanks to off-field and injury concerns. "He's a dynamite press corner, who is as good with his technique as Byron Maxwell, as Richard Sherman," Riddick said. Thanks to the Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie signing, Thurmond will likely open the season as a third corner in what is now a very deep unit.

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cotch to panters -- steelers are getting young in a hurry!

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Hah, idk what the panthers GM is thinking here. How you gonna Cut SS when he's the only WR on roster? What they gonna go WR for their first 3 picks? Cotch is a nice compliment, not your #1, SMH

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i think SS wanted out and had some problems with management. they should have at least resigned lafell to start

if you look at career #s the steelers are now worse off thant he panthers however. behind AB they have 6 career catches.

i insist on either mike evans, kelvin benjamin or marquis lee (or even odell beckham) in round 1.

i wasnt big on benjamin early on but you cant teach 6'5 240



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Yeah kind of a necessity now, Steve McLendon will have to stick around for another year..... I've heard some "experts" say that they like Benjamin better than Evans.... I dunno if I agree but there it is.... Whoever they pick it would be nice if they had some height to compliment AB's smaller stature.

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