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can anyone post kippers on here?

Your SOL son, hope they have good service so you can track it online

i tried to test the limit by telling her i already had plans haha but yeah it's not looking good either.

I will for sure tape it and not sure if I will shut off my phone or not because I cant imagine allie will be happy with me being on my phone the entire night, I can already imagine receiving over 100 texts that night.  we'll see how long I can last without any spoilers but I'm sure not long

so apparently eagles are holding private work outs for all the top 3 qbs and Jeffrey lurie will be in attendance.  I for one will not be shocked if the eagles draft a QB at #8, esp if a guy they love falls to them, what you guys think: crazy or smart?

I can see anything happening. I think theres gonna be a lot of trading (again) this year. browns, chargers, 49ers, could all get it started early then watch out.

I have done zero research but these guys seem to be the best of a weak class. teams always need QBs but drafting guys out of small schooles is tough because you have no idea how they will perform on the big stage. I think ealges are more likely to target someone like stanley or elliott or hardgraves. not sure where cardarrele will go but i do like him.

PFT put out an article yesterday after ramsey claimed himself the best player in the draft, saying CBs dont, and alluded to shouldnt, go that high. while no one other than a QB, LT or DL have gone first since like 1996, there is no hotter position right now that CB. they are the highest inflated position in FA, everyone wants CBs and are willing to pay, so why not go get one #1 if you dont need a QB? theyre also harder to predict in the draft which could mean he will bust, but if you believe he will translate it could be a huge gain this day in age.

i will be livid if the ravens get him.

yeah I read the article earlier today.  I liked chip and all but this act like he had nothing to do with any of the front office moves and is showing no responsibility for anything (he said roseman was the one who signed murray/Maxwell and he had nothing to do with that) when its clear the exact opposite happened is really frustrating.  its pretty clear now why Lurie fired him with 1 game to go and it has nothing to do with having a bad year, its the fact he showed no accountability for anything he did and he pissed off a lot of people in the building. 

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Mel Kiper 4.0 Mock

1. Tennessee Titans

Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss At this point, I think that while Jalen Ramsey is the type of talent you could consider here, the need to protect the face of the franchise wins out unless they find a way to trade out of this spot. The top left tackle in the draft goes to a team where offensive line help is a must. No change from the previous mock.

2. Cleveland Browns

Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State

He's not the top QB on my board, but this isn't a prospect ranking, it's a projection. The addition of Robert Griffin III does provide some added developmental insurance here so they don't have to start a rookie, and it also gives them a chance to wait on a QB pick if they really like one of the guys who could be around in Round 2.

3. San Diego Chargers

Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State

I do think they could consider Ronnie Stanley here, but if it's about the best player available here, I think Ramsey has a good shot. I know there are concerns he'll face some developmental hurdles as a rookie, but all cornerbacks do, and Ramsey's ceiling is extremely high.

4. Dallas Cowboys

Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State

I don't think they should be out of the market for a quarterback this high, but it's hard to go wrong with the best pure pass-rusher in the draft. Bosa might not be the kind of freakish athlete you peg for a future 20-sack season, but he's a much better athlete than many give him credit for, and he'll be an early contributor who can stay on the field in any situation.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars

Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

This guy just makes you better on the defensive side of the ball. The game comes so easy to him, and while we say it often, his ability to cover almost anyone with a legit linebacker frame is where it really stands out. Draft him and expect him to start right away.

6. Baltimore Ravens

Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State

The Ravens could go in a number of directions here, but this is a spot where Elliott starts to come into play for teams who want to stay strict to a "best player available" strategy. No question he'll benefit any team he lands with, including the Ravens.

7. San Francisco 49ers

Jared Goff, QB, California

Sticking with this pick. Even if Colin Kaepernick remains at quarterback -- that feels less and less likely -- I don't know if Goff would be out of the equation here. Goff has some special traits that could help him get on the field pretty quickly if Chip Kelly can trust him with the offense.

8. Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami)

DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon

A steal at this point, Buckner would look pretty good on a defensive line with Fletcher Cox. Buckner has the ability to really control an offensive lineman and disrupt offenses, and his versatility makes him useful pretty much anywhere.

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame

I could see Stanley going as high as No. 3 overall, which makes him a reasonable value here. The Bucs did target offensive line help in last year's draft, but ceiling is a pretty big question mark, and they shouldn't make the same mistake the Colts did with Andrew Luck when it comes to building a solid group in front of their franchise talent.

10. New York Giants

Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State

The Giants could go a few different directions here, as their spending spree in free agency, particularly on defense, doesn't mean that adding a pass-rusher or cornerback is out of the question here. But Conklin can be plugged in immediately at right tackle, and could even battle for the starting job on the left side.

11. Chicago Bears

Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia

Sticking with the same pick here from the previous mock. The Bears did a nice job in free agency at inside linebacker, but Floyd is the edge defender who could really help early in passing downs.

12. New Orleans Saints

Sheldon Rankins, DL, Louisville

Another one I'm not changing from the previous mock. Rankins offers as much interior quickness as you're going to find in this draft, a class loaded with good interior defenders. More disruption from the defensive line is a recipe for a rebound for the Saints' defense.

13. Miami Dolphins (from Philadelphia)

Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State

Lee offers tremendous upside, and I think a smart defensive coordinator will find him extremely versatile. He's an explosive, blitzing threat who is great in space and will grow into an above-average coverage linebacker. Athletes like this are special, and Lee has the instincts to go with that raw ability.

14. Oakland Raiders

Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida

The Raiders have done a lot of work in free agency to address the defensive side of the ball, but they need help at cornerback and could be tickled to find the best pure corner in the draft at this spot. Hargreaves lacks some measurables, but the tape doesn't lie.

15. Los Angeles Rams

Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis

Lynch needs a lot of development, but for a franchise desperate for a quarterback, he could be worth the bet. Could the Rams be one of the teams willing to move up for Goff or Wentz? It's not entirely out of the question.

16. Detroit Lions

Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss

The Lions have needs elsewhere, but getting the top wide receiver in the draft class at No. 16 overall is a good value. It's absurd to say Treadwell can replace Calvin Johnson -- nobody is doing that -- but he does give them length, strong hands and playmaking ability. They can get a good D-lineman in either of the next two rounds thanks to so much depth at the position.

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17. Atlanta Falcons

Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama

You could make a case that Ragland is as ready to contribute on Sundays as any defender in this draft. Yes, he's an instinctive tackling machine at the line of scrimmage, but Ragland can cover ground. Atlanta can put him to work immediately.

18. Indianapolis Colts

Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State

It's hard for me to see a situation in which one of the top three offensive tackles is still available here, but Decker is a solid value at this slot and I don't think the Colts can go wrong with a "best offensive lineman available" strategy, potentially more than once.

19. Buffalo Bills

Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

Given his productivity and well-rounded game, Lawson would be a good get in this range. The Ryan brothers have to get the defense turned around or they could both be elsewhere in 2017, and Lawson is the kind of player who can get on the field early and help.

20. New York Jets

Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M

One of the fastest-rising prospects in the draft, Ifedi has the prototype frame for an NFL left tackle, with long arms and quick feet. You're certainly projecting a little here, because he's far more about potential than polish at this point, but you could end up with a steal at a need position. Ifedi can also play guard.

21. Washington Redskins

Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama

Washington went after physical trench players in the 2015 draft, and Reed would be a continuation of that trend. There isn't a better defender against the run, and Reed is ready to get on the field for pretty much any team.

22. Houston Texans

Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor

They have a big-time talent in DeAndre Hopkins, but Coleman adds another dimension, and is the kind of speedster who can open up space for others in the offense because you simply have to respect his speed. If you think you have your QB, you better add another weapon.

23. Minnesota Vikings

Josh Doctson, WR, TCU

Sticking with this pick from the previous mock. As I said then, you have Stefon Diggs, but this is a huge year for Teddy Bridgewater and the Vikings need to add another weapon in the passing game. Doctson is a magician when the ball is in the air, and he can make plays after the catch as well.

24. Cincinnati Bengals

Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame

Free agency didn't help Andy Dalton all that much. A.J. Green is still all-world at wide receiver, but they could use another player who will get the attention of opposing defensive coordinators and make safeties take a step or two backwards. Fuller has big-time speed and was the best deep threat in college football last season.

25. Pittsburgh Steelers

William Jackson III, CB, Houston

The Steelers could be a better secondary away from Super Bowl contention, and while you don't want to rely on rookies back there too often, Pittsburgh doesn't have a choice and should add talent wherever there's value to be had. Jackson is rising on boards everywhere and could be a good get at this stage.

26. Seattle Seahawks

Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State

I know the offensive line is a concern, but I don't think you can sacrifice talent for need here, especially when the reality is you're not being realistic if you think there's an immediate upgrade at left tackle to be found here. Apple has major upside as a physical cornerback with length. He'll fit right in.

27. Green Bay Packers

Kamalei Correa, OLB, Boise State

A high-energy speedster coming off the edge looks great on this defense, and the more you watch Correa, the more you see the potential for him to help a pass-rush right away. He can take some pressure off Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers.

28. Kansas City Chiefs

Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State

He's listed at safety, but Bell has the kind of coverage ability that some think he could handle cornerback. In a nutshell, he's a versatile talent in the secondary, and the Chiefs -- or any team, for that matter -- will find use for him.

29. Arizona Cardinals

Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama

The addition of Chandler Jones gives the Cardinals a much-needed pass-rusher. Now a team without glaring needs does have a noticeable one on the interior of the offensive line. Kelly is a plug-and-play option at center, and he's also in the "best available" mix at this point.

30. Carolina Panthers

Emmanuel Ogbah, DE/OLB, Oklahoma State

The Panthers will be reminded how impactful a dominating pass-rush can be every time they roll the Super Bowl tape -- though I don't suspect that'll be too often. Kony Ealy is on the rise, but Charles Johnson turns 30 this summer, and Ogbah has major upside. Again: You can't have enough good pass-rushers.

31. Denver Broncos

A'Shawn Robinson, DL, Alabama

The departure of Malik Jackson in free agency makes Robinson an easy pick here. And really, even if Jackson was still around, this pick makes sense. If there's a big question at this stage, it's whether John Elway could be in the QB market right here. He's got time, and he usually has a pretty good plan, too.

There will be only 31 picks in the first round in 2016, with New England's first-round pick forfeited.
Prospects in play in the second round A number of these guys could easily land in Round 1, particularly some of the defensive tackles. I'm simply saying for this mock they are in play in Round 2.

Quarterbacks: Connor Cook, Michigan State; Christian Hackenberg, Penn State

Running backs: Derrick Henry, Alabama

Wide receivers: Sterling Shepard, Oklahoma; Michael Thomas, Ohio State;Braxton Miller, Ohio State

Tight ends: Hunter Henry, Arkansas; Jerell Adams, South Carolina

Offensive tackles: Jason Spriggs, Indiana; Shon Coleman, Auburn; Jerald Hawkins, LSU

Guards: Joshua Garnett, Stanford; Cody Whitehair, Kansas State

Centers: Nick Martin, Notre Dame

Defensive ends: Jihad Ward, Illinois; Kevin Dodd, Clemson; Jonathan Bullard, Florida; Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State

Defensive tackles: Kenny Clark, UCLA; Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech;Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss; Chris Jones, Mississippi State; Andrew Billings, Baylor; Adolphus Washington, Ohio State; Austin Johnson, Penn State; Hassan Ridgeway, Texas; Maliek Collins, Nebraska

Inside linebackers: Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia

Outside linebackers: Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky; Deion Jones, LSU;Su'a Cravens, USC; Joshua Perry, Ohio State; Joe Schobert, Wisconsin

Cornerbacks: Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech; Mackensie Alexander, Clemson;Artie Burns, Miami (Fla.); Xavien Howard, Baylor

Safeties: Karl Joseph, West Virginia; Jalen Mills, LSU; Keanu Neal, Florida;Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah

wow kipper has Elliott going #6?? that's pretty high, although it wouldn't stun me completely to see the eagles draft him at 8 so I guess 6 isn't too far off, but still I don't see that happening.

I like buckner at 8, but if Stanley is there I don't see the eagles passing on him unless someone who they really like slips to them unexpectedly.  I think buckner goes 6 to the ravens actually.

I'm surprised all these bama guys are going in the 20's and late in the 1st.  I feel like this is another year where another good bama defensive prospect gets picked by a good team and makes an immediate impact like cj molsey 

id much rather the ravens took elliott than buckner because i think buckner is a much better prospect, eps in the top 10. i really dont see them going RB either, like the steelers or giants they like guys in the trenches with high picks then skill guys later. i will be pissed if they get buckner, bosa or ramsey. those are my biggest fears.

yeah I'm sure if this guy fell to them they would love to draft him at 8, but with the browns/49ers and possibly a surprise team (dallas?) drafting ahead of them I don't see him slipping.  and with no 2nd round pick I don't see how the eagles would have enough to trade up to #1 if they even did like him that much.

cant say I know much about him, didn't check out too many North Dakota state games this season haha.  I'm always nervous about guys like that, if you're a top prospect and a potential franchise qb, shouldn't you have been noticed at some point while the games were actually being played?  that situation always reminds me of blaine gabbert who was a nobody all season, then we get to the combine and the senior bowl or whatever and now they're a top 10 pick all of a sudden and going to be the face of the franchise? 

with that said, maybe him playing at a small school was the reason we didn't hear about him during the season which would make his situation different from gabbert but still.  everything I read says hes more of a running qb, or at least that's what he's best at, and we've seen how that's translated to the NFL level.  I actually watched some of Geoff's games and thought he was pretty good.  if he slipped to 8 and the eagles were confident enough that he has franchise qb potential and drafted him I would be more happy with that.

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Eagles "are in love" with Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott.
La Canfora "continue[s] to hear" that if both Cal QB Jared Goff and North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz are off the board when the Eagles pick at No. 8, then Elliott "is the pick." The belief around the league is de facto GM Howie Roseman is "dead set on making a huge splash" in the draft. Elliott would qualify and immediately slide in as the Eagles' three-down workhorse after coach Doug Pederson previously coached workhorses LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles. Elliott may not even make it to No. 8, as the Cowboys at No. 4 are said to be "very high" on him.

how you feel about Zeke at 8 fish? I'd want none of it

8 is high for him, but I would like it.  I would rather have an impact defensive player but if Elliot is the best player available and the eagles went with him I would be real happy.  after signing the G from Texans (brooks) and another G from jax, the line is coming together nicely so it's now time for some impact offensive skills guys since chip let McCoy, Jackson and maclin all go and haven't really replaced any of them.

like your post said, Pederson is used to having an elite RB to work with, so having Elliott would really open up their offense and I don't think ryan Mathews is the answer.  normally I would say to draft a RB in the 2nd round, but the eagles don't have a 2nd round pick this year so I am not sure if we can wait until the 3rd round to get a potential impact player. 

nick, its easy to say the steelers didn't miss a beat when bell went down and denaglo came in, but you also have big ben and AB and those wr's to lean on, the eagles don't.  they need some skill guys offensively to help out Bradford, so while it may be considered a reach there at 8, if they think hes going to be a special player I think it would be a good pick.

funny we're talking about this, bill barnwell just came out with an article today talking about draft outliers and how high of a pick the average is for each position for the top guy in that class. and where was RB? with the 8th overall pick...

Running Back

Median Top Draft Position: 8th overall pick
Highest-Drafted Outliers: Ronnie Brown (2005, 2nd overall pick, +6 picks vs. expectation); Reggie Bush (2006, 2nd overall pick, +6); Trent Richardson (2012, 3rd overall pick, +5)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15193220/players-clearly-best-nfl-draft-prospect-their-position-often-live-nfl

ha we'll see.  I'm reading dallas may draft him at 4, and the big key is going to be where Geoff goes cuz it would not surprise me one bit if the eagles wanted him if he fell past san fran.

 

Wowwwwww


Titans get: Rams 2016 1st, two 2016 2nds, 2017 1st, and 2017 3rd
Rams get: Titans 2016 1st, 2016 4th, 2016 6th

I guarantee you they take Goff, a California kid/College player... He'll give LA fans an immediate connection to the team and give them a reason to want to root for the team, makes too much sense.... updated mock incoming today....

yeah its a good trade for the rams and a great trade for the titans.  they already have a qb so they don't need the #1 pick, and now they can add 4-5 extra picks and get some young talent.

I like the trade for the rams as well.  I like when teams move up in the draft to get their guy esp if they think it is a franchise changing player.  now, I have no idea if Geoff or wentz is that guy, but I like the move to be aggressive to get him because if he is a franchise qb a team cant give up enough to get that player.  and the rams are pretty good at a lot of other positions, esp RB and dline, but you cant win without a qb and I'm sure they did not want another 6-10 or 8-8 year with foles or case kenum. 

hard knocks just got a lot more interesting...

woah that was quick.

good point, if this trade pushes tunsil down to the ravens (which it looks like it will) i hate this trade more than i already did (more picks for tenn + likely an additional defensive player picked)

mocking tradwell to gmen? could be a dangerous duo with ODB. 

 

im sure there are alot more trades coming.

haha i like it.  but didn't you guarantee Geoff to the rams about 2 hours ago? 

Changed my mind, too much smoke on Wentz for there not to be fire IMO... Goff was just a gut reaction

ESPN's Ed Werder reports the Eagles made a bid for the No. 1 overall pick before "(withdrawing) earlier in the week."
Despite already having Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel on the roster, the Eagles are reportedly enamored with North Dakota State's Carson Wentz. That dream is almost certainly out the window with the Rams moving up to No. 1 for what has to be the explicit purpose of drafting a quarterback, likely Wentz. The Eagles won't be taking a quarterback on Day 1.

uh oh...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/story/_/id/15203927/los-angeles-rams-lean-jared-goff-no-1-pick

yeah I can't see that either.  you don't give up multiple picks, including what 4-5 in the 1st 2 rounds, unless you are sure the guy you are getting is going to be special and not a coin flip between 2 guys and hope for the best.